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Leisa update 2.0: as many of you have seen leisa is back on the ventilator. They did an mri on her lungs and the right lung has completely filled with fluid. They drained 1.5 litters off 2 days ago and now it is back.
They are going to put a drain in the lung today that i had to give them permission to do. There are a lot of risks associated with the procedure but i dont see another way to keep the fluid off since they say they cant stop it.
I want everybody to be aware that they are NOT trying to cure leisa just make her more comfortable. There is no chemo happening or radiation. The cancer is running crazy inside. It is spreading all over.
I am so sick to my stomach. I dont know what to pray for. It will take a miracle for her to get better. If that is the lords will why does she have to suffer. If it is the lords will to take her why does she have to suffer so.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
Leisa update 2.0: as many of you have seen leisa is back on the ventilator. They did an mri on her lungs and the right lung has completely filled with fluid. They drained 1.5 litters off 2 days ago and now it is back.
They are going to put a drain in the lung today that i had to give them permission to do. There are a lot of risks associated with the procedure but i dont see another way to keep the fluid off since they say they cant stop it.
I want everybody to be aware that they are NOT trying to cure leisa just make her more comfortable. There is no chemo happening or radiation. The cancer is running crazy inside. It is spreading all over.
I am so sick to my stomach. I dont know what to pray for. It will take a miracle for her to get better. If that is the lords will why does she have to suffer. If it is the lords will to take her why does she have to suffer so.
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I'm so sad about your wife.

The question of suffering is a deep one, though. Why does God allow suffering? I've thought about that often. In some cases the answer is easy, such as when the suffering is caused by the free agency of others--like in a drunk driving car accident, say. God won't force someone to not drink & drive, so there are going to be natural consequences of poor choices. In other cases, such as your own, the answer is harder. One of the main answers I've come up with, though, in situations like these, is that the suffering gives a chance for people to develop godly attributes such as compassion, empathy, patience, and love. In the eternal scheme of things the suffering is a blink of an eye (although it doesn't feel like it when you're going through it), but the change in our characters for the better as a result of the suffering can have everlasting impact.
 
So very sorry to hear such sad news.

Is she at all awake or alert? I'm not sure if that would be preferable or not.

You mentioned before that she says she's tired of fighting and just wants to be done. Do you think perhaps she sees it as time to be reunited with your son? If that is a thought that might provide some comfort in all of this, than hold tight to that.
 
Sorry to hear what you're going through and that your wife has to suffer. I had a friend who was in a coma as a result of a brain injury for months. Amazingly he remembered and understood almost everything he was going through. He's now made a complete recovery. When he encounters a disabled or sick person (no matter how bad) he treats them and talks to them as if they are healthy. He truly cares about them, asks how they are feeling, what he can do for them, etc. even if he knows they can't answer. He holds their hand, looks into their eyes, and truly cares about them. I asked him why this is so important to him and he told me it's because he was once trapped in the same situation and he knows how lonely it feels to have people talking about you as if you're not in the room.

Since learning that from him I've had several experiences that have proven to me that terminal patients are almost always more aware than I had previously thought. It's a good reminder.
 
colton said:
I'm so sad about your wife.

The question of suffering is a deep one, though. Why does God allow suffering? I've thought about that often. In some cases the answer is easy, such as when the suffering is caused by the free agency of others--like in a drunk driving car accident, say. God won't force someone to not drink & drive, so there are going to be natural consequences of poor choices. In other cases, such as your own, the answer is harder. One of the main answers I've come up with, though, in situations like these, is that the suffering gives a chance for people to develop godly attributes such as compassion, empathy, patience, and love. In the eternal scheme of things the suffering is a blink of an eye (although it doesn't feel like it when you're going through it), but the change in our characters for the better as a result of the suffering can have everlasting impact.
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An eternal perspective is rare in this world, though people of all faiths turn to God in the difficult passes in their lives in some degree or some manner.

I find however I argue the case it comes around to mumbling and rambling beyond my depth, nothing really "makes sense", even the good times in life. It is what it is, and then it is gone. LDS people, and people of many other faiths, hold to a belief in a hereafter. One of my nephews was for months in a coma or near-coma. When he was back with us, he talked lucidly about his uncles being there with him, even me, he said. I have no idea what kind of reality that is, because I am a light sleeper, waking many times throughout the night, or day, as the case may be, and I had no dream of being "over there". Maybe just thinking of someone can be perceived as "being there".

I want to live a good long life, but I have many friends "over there" already, and it doesn't strike me as particularly unpleasant to go "over there". I should have been dead for one reason or another many times already, it makes no sense I am still here. What am I doing for anyone?

Being silly, talking about how, actually, morals make all the difference in life, and in politics.

I've done the watch with a terminal cancer patient/friend. Well a couple a times. One refused the pain killers and all the treatments. For reasons I find beyond belief. All kinds of people came around to help. It was an ordeal of six months, and as I remember it, a blink in the eye.

How we love others, and care for them, is the real measure of who we are.
 
What else after Chemo fails? Anything? Please share anything? Anecdotal, rumor, ********, anything. thanks
 
♪alt13 said:
What else after Chemo fails? Anything? Please share anything? Anecdotal, rumor, ********, anything. thanks
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It all depends on the cancer. Some of them are operable. Mine was a localized tumor and I am damn lucky I had no metastases, or in other words that it didn't spread. Often when the cancer is on the move they can do heavy chemo first, then follow that up with localized radiation (I had proton therapy at Loma Linda university, which I credit for saving my life). If that doesn't work, and the patient is strong enough, generally the last-ditch effort it incredibly heavy chemo combined with full-body radiation. In that case they either need to get a sample of the patient's bone marrow to "re-seed" the marrow or they need to line up donors (more common), because this last treatment destroys the bone marrow and it needs to be replaced. So they do heavy chemo and radiation followed by a bone marrow transplant. That is generally the final option. However if the patient isn't strong enough for that (trust me, chemo in and of itself is bad, it almost killed me twice. not the cancer), or if the cancer is just too aggressive, then the only option is to make them as comfortable as possible until the end.

My heart goes out to you CD. I know what it is like to be on the other side of that equation, and I have read about my wife's experience in her journals dealing with a cancer patient. It is hard, one of the hardest things anyone can ever go through in this life, for both of us. You are in our thoughts and prayers.
 
My little baby sister lost her battle with cancer.

She was a super hero, a paragon, and all y'all should be super jelly not to have known her.

I love you sis
 
♪alt13 said:
My little baby sister lost her battle with cancer.

She was a super hero, a paragon, and all y'all should be super jelly not to have known her.

I love you sis
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Damn bro, not cool. **** cancer.

How old was she and what kind of the big c did she have? Feel free not to answer that and just tell me to **** off.
 
♪alt13 said:
My little baby sister lost her battle with cancer.

She was a super hero, a paragon, and all y'all should be super jelly not to have known her.

I love you sis
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My condolences. Very sad.
 
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