Yes disaster.
You mention saving money in Iraq. Obama has spent more money than all other Presidents combined. But let's put that aside.
Arab Spring. Obama couldn't wait to get on board and in doing so he supported groups we really didn't know. Major contributor to the rise of the current middle east groups. Libya for example.
Syria, "Assad must go". Did we learn nothing from Iraq? Obama's policies have made that war dramatically worse leading to a fallout region and world wide. Yeah, Assad is trash. But how is the opposition working out. Look at the groups opposed to him? Only the Kurds are worth anything. Often the air supplies we drop end up in the hands of the exact people we are trying to stop.
How about going up to Putin and saying hey. We don't like Assad but we will back your play there if you cool it in Crimea? Or did we just think Russia would be cool with them in NATO? Let's keep pushing west...smh
But nope sanctions. Which hasn't done a damn thing except guarantee tension with Russia.
Or how about failing to join China's AII bank? That would have created a great amount of good will and possibly gotten China on board in our Asian pivot. Instead we didn't join and tried to pressure our allies into not joining as well. Something England and Israel rightfully ignored us on.
Throughout all of these things American goals have been anything but clear and that is something the President himself has admitted.
Name on part of the world Obama has engaged in that is better. Now I know that he isn't alone on the world stage but he has a record of failure on the world stage. That's a disaster.
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Well Stoked we see things completely different on Obama's foreign policy. I didnt see one concrete realistic option in there. How about we go to Putin and offer him a deal? Just talk it out? Thats your solution? #1 how do you know we didnt or what was offered behind closed doors. #2 Putin has been threatening out NATO allies on the east. We drove our tanks through the EAST and got cheered, people lining the streets with American flags. Thats not a disaster. Thats standing with our allies, and on the eastern front we are stronger today than ever before. I work with these countries every day. My base is a NATO training area. The soldiers come on our post, and use our facitilies. We talk politics. I ask them how they like us, our president, our country. Standing up to Putin isnt a weakness, it shows strength my friend. He is being the bully for show, and we called his bluff. We arent starting the war. The war in the middle east hasnt been clear. You have every country in inolved. This easily could have broken out into world war. He played a more passive roll, let Iraq fight its own battles, and we saved US lives in the region.
Youve stated that we should have tried to talk Putin to stay out of Syria? Not going to happen. There were agreements made, and there were also close calls. Nothing more than posturing. Obama didnt flinch. Rock solid.
He made mistakes. Both those arent them.
A disaster is world war. 10s of thousands of american deaths. Trillions lost for invading the wrong country.
Obamas policy did not cause these conflicts.
Respectfully disagree with you my friend. You are one of the few conservative members with even temper who have my upmost respect.
I get that you see the world, and Obama a completely different. I see it another way. As always I do like to see what the opposing side has
to say even if it strongly disagree with it. Respect.