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Obama Might Lose This

Yeah right. You pray every night, like all the other Mormons, that Mitt buys his way into the Whitehouse.

Then I guess Harry Reid prays for that every night as well. That crap is beneath you Pearl.

Do most Mormons want Mitt to win? Of course. Do all of them? No. Do the ones that all want him to win pray for it? No.
 
That ain't the truth.:



There is a Titanic load of Democratic Party acts and policies that encroach on/restrict my personal freedoms.

It's absolutely the truth. Who controlled the Executive branch in 2007? It certainly wasn't passed with a filibuster proof majority.

And what personal freedoms of yours are being banned from the Democratic Party? You should at least be able to come up with 10 or so if there's a Titanic load.
 
Yeah, but unlike Reagan's War on Drugs there aren't thousands of people in prison for possessing tiramisu.

If they want my tiramisu (haha, spell check recommended pastrami) they can pry it from my cold, fat, dead hands.
 
It's absolutely the truth. Who controlled the Executive branch in 2007? It certainly wasn't passed with a filibuster proof majority.

Seriously? If you are going to blame Bush for a Democrat Party sponsored bill there is no where to go from here. Get back to your pot.
 
You know it is true.

They'll probably have state wide ward fasts come October.

I'm afraid you're wrong this time. I know a lot of Mormons who won't vote for Mitt, and a lot who will. It is true that the LDS Church gave out messages from the leaders encouraging them to go to the caucuses this year. Oh, they did it without mentioning Mitt or the Republican party specifically, like they were encouraging good citizenship in a non-partisan way. But in the inside track the leaders are pulling for Mitt and Hatch, and the word is getting around on a personal basis. This did indeed have a major impact at the caucuses, and gave Hatch a big boost.

The fact that organizations like the Deseret News and KSL radio/TV have been for sixty years headed by members of the CFR-connected Salt Lake Committee on Foreign Relations would cause cognitive dissonance among very conservative faithful LDS members, and in my opinion Mormons who are members of organizations like that which covertly undermine the US Constitutional government in favor of top-down, undemocratic world governance schema through multilateral or UN governance mechanisms which people cannot vote on means they should be excommunicated for their membership in such evil undemocratic and anti-human liberty semi-secret organizations. Yeah, you can get invited to attend a meeting/dinner/speech , but you have to promise to follow their rule of "non-attribution" meaning you can't say who said what afterwards, ostensibly to promote candid discussions of sensitive issues and prevent the repercussions of being quoted for what you really think, and otherwise gossiped about. In reality it just enables completely false public political posturing and massive deception.

That said, it is stupid to call Orrin Hatch or Mitt Romney Republicans, just as much as it is to call Obama and Harry Reid Democrats. They are only right- and left-handed puppets of the same puppeteer. Ron Paul is not a Republican either, as he is clearly breaking ranks with the Business Party of Rockefeller, Inc and the Federal Reserve bankers, not to mention the Progressive Dependency Party of the Disenfranchised.

Paul alone is even trying to represent the ordinary responsible American, and I think that just demands a clear choice in a brand new political organization. American Independence Party, anyone????
 
The fact that organizations like the Deseret News and KSL radio/TV have been for sixty years headed by members of the CFR-connected Salt Lake Committee on Foreign Relations would cause cognitive dissonance among very conservative faithful LDS members, and in my opinion Mormons who are members of organizations like that which covertly undermine the US Constitutional government in favor of top-down, undemocratic world governance schema through multilateral or UN governance mechanisms which people cannot vote on means they should be excommunicated for their membership in such evil undemocratic and anti-human liberty semi-secret organizations.

Holy run-on sentence Batman!
 
Seriously? If you are going to blame Bush for a Democrat Party sponsored bill there is no where to go from here. Get back to your pot.

You realize that the executive branch has to pass bills, or they don't become bills. Or more specifically if the Executive branch vetos a bill the bill has to be passed by 2/3rds of both houses. But in this case that is irrelevant because Bush did sign the energy act into law.

Though I guess in your world it is silly to blame the President who actually signs in the bill for the bill passing. I have no idea why that's the case, but for you it is.

Do you really need that basic of a civics lesson?
 
Then I guess Harry Reid prays for that every night as well. That crap is beneath you Pearl.

Do most Mormons want Mitt to win? Of course. Do all of them? No. Do the ones that all want him to win pray for it? No.

I don't want to say it wrong, but thanks for the back, Stroked, and, she meant it as a friendly joke.
 
I don't want to say it wrong, but thanks for the back, Stroked, and, she meant it as a friendly joke.

To be honest I could not tell she was joking. I have literally met people that think things like that about Mormons so I figured Pearl was another. It does not upset me or anything, none of this does, but I will say something if I feel the need. I'm not shy.
 
I'm afraid you're wrong this time. I know a lot of Mormons who won't vote for Mitt, and a lot who will. It is true that the LDS Church gave out messages from the leaders encouraging them to go to the caucuses this year. Oh, they did it without mentioning Mitt or the Republican party specifically, like they were encouraging good citizenship in a non-partisan way. But in the inside track the leaders are pulling for Mitt and Hatch, and the word is getting around on a personal basis. This did indeed have a major impact at the caucuses, and gave Hatch a big boost.

The fact that organizations like the Deseret News and KSL radio/TV have been for sixty years headed by members of the CFR-connected Salt Lake Committee on Foreign Relations would cause cognitive dissonance among very conservative faithful LDS members, and in my opinion Mormons who are members of organizations like that which covertly undermine the US Constitutional government in favor of top-down, undemocratic world governance schema through multilateral or UN governance mechanisms which people cannot vote on means they should be excommunicated for their membership in such evil undemocratic and anti-human liberty semi-secret organizations. Yeah, you can get invited to attend a meeting/dinner/speech , but you have to promise to follow their rule of "non-attribution" meaning you can't say who said what afterwards, ostensibly to promote candid discussions of sensitive issues and prevent the repercussions of being quoted for what you really think, and otherwise gossiped about. In reality it just enables completely false public political posturing and massive deception.

That said, it is stupid to call Orrin Hatch or Mitt Romney Republicans, just as much as it is to call Obama and Harry Reid Democrats. They are only right- and left-handed puppets of the same puppeteer. Ron Paul is not a Republican either, as he is clearly breaking ranks with the Business Party of Rockefeller, Inc and the Federal Reserve bankers, not to mention the Progressive Dependency Party of the Disenfranchised.

Paul alone is even trying to represent the ordinary responsible American, and I think that just demands a clear choice in a brand new political organization. American Independence Party, anyone????

WHAT??????? That can't be so. I'm pretty sure Uckdorf or Monson will get up in semi-annual conference to encourage prayer to take place on behalf of Mitt and V.P. Beck so they can save the constitution from hanging by a thread. Once they defeat the anti-Christ there will be Hallelujah shouts throughout Zion.
Ron Paul will have his place in all of this. He will be rewarded for his part in taking down the evil Santorum from the "whore of all the Earth" church.
 
WHAT??????? That can't be so. I'm pretty sure Uckdorf or Monson will get up in semi-annual conference to encourage prayer to take place on behalf of Mitt and V.P. Beck so they can save the constitution from hanging by a thread. Once they defeat the anti-Christ there will be Hallelujah shouts throughout Zion.
Ron Paul will have his place in all of this. He will be rewarded for his part in taking down the evil Santorum from the "whore of all the Earth" church.

I clearly see your humorous, mocking tone in that one. I missed it in previous replies. I responded because I have met people that are actually like that.

Carry on.
 
The fact that this is even close is a terrible sign for Obama. Usually the incumbent has a decent lead and wins. The challenger usually doesn't challenge until fall, if at all. If Obama is slipping now, he may be in serious trouble.
 
The fact that this is even close is a terrible sign for Obama. Usually the incumbent has a decent lead and wins. The challenger usually doesn't challenge until fall, if at all. If Obama is slipping now, he may be in serious trouble.

I have read articles saying it will be a landslide for Obama and articles saying it will be a landslide for Romney. I think it will be much closer and come down to the wire. America is pretty evenly split in my opinion.
 
What cracks me up is all the predictions and we haven't even seen a debate or a convention. It's still pretty early in the game. Technically, Mitt isn't even the nominee yet.
 
What cracks me up is all the predictions and we haven't even seen a debate or a convention. It's still pretty early in the game. Technically, Mitt isn't even the nominee yet.

True but we all know he has this in the bag. He will clinch it next week with Texas. As for the "predictions" most of them are from typical leftwing/right wing whipping boys.
 
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