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Obama Might Lose This

margodydek said:
Dumb question, and apologies if it's already been mentioned here, but can someone tell me when it was during the last election that it became clear that Obama would win? Was it pretty apparent before the polls opened on election day?
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When his opponent was McCain.
 
Sirkickyass said:
The administration is their boss. If they did that then the responsible people should be fired.
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I can see where actually believing ideals like this could make some otherwise smart folks believe government can be good.

It's been commonly known for over sixty years that unelected civil "servants" staff the federal bureaucracy, and Presidents since Eisenhower have remarked on their limited influence with the "staff". Presidents come and go, and follow the recommendations of the permanent government. About the only President who might have had actual control over the CIA was George Herbert Walker Bush, who was actually the CIA chief at one time.
 
A photo this good deserves some captions. Let's see some good ones.
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margodydek said:
Dumb question, and apologies if it's already been mentioned here, but can someone tell me when it was during the last election that it became clear that Obama would win? Was it pretty apparent before the polls opened on election day?
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McCain's goose was cooked when the stock market crashed in September.
 
Gameface said:
And I think the final ray of hope faded when Palin gave her first disastrous interview.
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She should have kept her mouth shut and worn an outfit a little more provacative. Men in record numbers would have voted.
 
margodydek said:
Dumb question, and apologies if it's already been mentioned here, but can someone tell me when it was during the last election that it became clear that Obama would win? Was it pretty apparent before the polls opened on election day?
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When he won the democratic primary. Bush Fatigue.
 
trigg3r said:
Did I hurt your feelings? Again, you are showing your bias. You already have this race over with Obama winning. Let's look at the latest polling and stop the emotional response you seem so fond of. One of the latest polls done in Michigan has it a tie. I don't recall saying that Romney takes Michigan. This throws your, " Considering you're saying you think Romney will win virtually every swing state that is competitive and some that are not competitive I'm pretty sure you're in pie-in-the sky fantasy land" out the window.

RCP has Romney up 48.0 to 46.8 in Virginia. I feel comfortable in saying Romney takes Virginia. Not sure why you have to get so up in arms about this.

RCP has Florida with a Romney advantage of 48% to 47.1%.

RCP has Colorado tied. In the end I gave my opinion that Romney would pull this one out. Just a feeling. You know, kind of like when you said this thing was over.

RCP has Obama with a lead in Wisconsin 49.3 to 47. I don't remember initially saying Romney was taking Wisconsin. I remember saying that it was in play due to the fact that they have shown a preference for Republicans in the state government in recent years. Keep in mind that Obama carried this state by 14 points in 2008.

Again, I don't recall saying Romney would win Pennsylvania. I said he wouldn't abandon it as one of his last chance options if Ohio didn't work out. I think you are being too silly and biased in this discussion. I never said Romney would take every close toss up state. I never even talked about Iowa, Nevada, or even mentioned Ohio in the Romney column. I will say that now more than ever I hope Romney is elected just for the fact that you and the Thriller would go insane.
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RCP sure got this election right...
 
trigg3r said:
I don't have the time as of this second to argue the points you put forth on a point by point basis. I will try to do that tomorrow. I do however find it funny that members of both parties including yourself seem to try to arrange the polls to support your claims. RCP is now not a good site according to the Thriller because it shows Obama behind in many key states. Rasmussen isn't a good polling organization because it has Romney ahead nationally. Same with Gallup now which has a 50-46 Romney advantage amongst likely voters. I will say that you saying Obama will get to 300 ECVs is ridiculous. In other words, you have Obama winning:

Michigan(Will be interesting to see how this plays out)
Iowa(I think the President takes this even though Romney was endorsed by 4 major newspapers)
Ohio(Not sure why you count this in the win column, looks like a toss up to me)
Pennsylvania(likely Obama's)
Colorado(I actually think Romney takes Colorado, call it a guess)
Nevada(The Labor Unions will win this for the President even with the highest unemployment rate in the country)
Wisconsin(Statistical tie as of now)

Puts the President at 286 ECVs.

Romney winning:

Florida
North Carolina
New Hampshire



You have Virgina as a toss up which either catapults the President to 299 ECVs. I don't see it Kicky. I think you are seeing the Romney momentum continue. Maybe not as fast. Here's a real question, why does Romney currently even have a 1 in 8 chance of winning Wisconsin as you put it? It's pretty easy to see the President's job approval rating is slipping along with his likability factor. He is currently acting like he is the challenger and Romney is the President by focusing on the little things. I am calling it right now for Romney barring a major gaffe. If I am wrong, I will own up to it and say I was wrong.


Anyway, you made me late.... YOU SOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Are you planning on owning up to it and saying this entire post was wrong?
 
This thread is just loaded with gems.

Thanks for the laughs Scat, Stoked, and trigg

Can't wait to up this baby here in 4 years, when you folks are quoting worthless sites like RCP and using ridiculous Rassmussen to convince yourselves a repub win (not blowout loss) is inevitable.
 
Zombie said:
Easy there killer. I'd hate for you to be accused, once again, of being nothing more than a partisan hack.
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He is a partisan hack. Don't play games.

Revo and kicky are not. You are not but Thriller is the same damn thing as PearlWatson.
 
Stoked said:
He is a partisan hack. Don't play games.

Revo and kicky are not. You are not but Thriller is the same damn thing as PearlWatson.
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Sour grapes much? Come now, don't act like you wouldn't be doing the same had you won your bet.

Of course, you wouldn't care what I said because I'm on your ignore list, right?
 
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