Obama voices support for gay marriage.
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It isn't just the bible bangers who are against gay marriage, although in this country they're the majority of the religious groups who are for it. The religious objection is the biggest one, other than the "ugh, it's sick" types. Because there isn't much of a rational objection past that.
Jerry Lundegaard
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The religious objection is far from rational. Religion itself is irrational. We've got the nuts running the nuthouse.
God loves you and many care about your soul. Seriously. YOU are important to many.
Hantlers
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I'm tolerant about everybody. Except those religious ********, what a bunch of loons.
Tolerance shmolerance. Religion can suck it.
Why not form a "blue dog" republican coalition and have labor support actual labor candidates? Then we can treat the president like the puppet he (she) is.
It drives me up the wall that labor unions give to the New Corporate Party to oppose the Old Corporate Party. Give all the money to labor democrats and forget the presidency.
A moderate republican coalition may be harder since there isn't a money pool behind it, but I think it could form in places like Minnesota.
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I doubt labor money can compete with corporate money to the extent of making a third party viable. Reforming the contribution system (and imposing stricter limits) seems like the best solution.
I'm thinking more of a intra-party coalition that brings sanity back to each side. Labor provides a **** load of money and should be able to pick up at least as many candidates as the Tea Party has. It makes zero sense for labor unions to pool their money in with corporate interests that are at odds with them.
And yes, labor can compete with corporate interests: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?order=A
1 ActBlue $61,045,753 99% 0%
2 AT&T Inc $48,552,272 43% 55%
3 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $47,869,048 92% 1%
4 National Assn of Realtors $41,770,326 47% 49%
5 Service Employees International Union $38,819,196 74% 2%
6 National Education Assn $38,284,919 80% 5%
7 Goldman Sachs $38,135,456 58% 39%
8 American Assn for Justice $35,793,179 88% 8%
9 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $34,928,253 97% 2%
10 American Federation of Teachers $32,850,516 89% 0%
11 Teamsters Union $32,657,878 87% 5%
12 Laborers Union $32,629,200 88% 7%
13 Carpenters & Joiners Union $31,622,758 86% 10%
14 Communications Workers of America $31,271,197 92% 0%
15 Citigroup Inc $29,433,390 49% 49%
16 American Medical Assn $28,016,861 40% 59%
17 United Food & Commercial Workers Union $27,981,755 92% 0%
18 United Auto Workers $27,926,225 98% 0%
19 National Auto Dealers Assn $27,680,258 32% 67%
20 Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union $27,379,727 98% 1%
The percentages are what was given to Democrats and Republicans, respectively.
Interesting. I wonder why that solution is not discussed more often.
PearlWatson
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Name them.
candrew
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Someone should tell Obama that his strongest constituency, black folks, are mostly against gay marriage if not outright homophobic. This really, really, really could have waited until next year.
But to me the biggest blunder is now the redneck yokels who were going to stay home because of wishy washy Romney now have something to come out and vote against.
If Obama loses everyone will say THIS is the reason - and with the shape the country is in right now, that might be the greatest tragedy of all.
Yeah, but at least if Obama loses he won't be viewed as a complete weenie.
I still view him as such, regardless. One half-assed gestures does not make up for 3 years of pandering.
Mission Accomplished
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The sad thing is that he pandered to the mindless. Because they don't even understand the extent that he tried to be moderate and negotiated with the GOP. If he does get elected the next 4 years expect him to take advantage of the democratic majority he will have.