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akirac73

akirac73

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Mark Deeks @MarkDeeksNBA about 11 minutes ago
Bulls renounced Daequan Cook, Vladimir Radmanovic, Nazr Mohammed, Brian Scalabrine and Jimmer Fredette,

Sign him up as at the minimum...he can be used a PR tool for the Jazz?
 
Jazz point guards shot 2-11 on threes today, so I really don't see a place for Jimmer on the team.
 
PR tool and fan divider. I can hear people chanting for Jimmer when Utah is struggling, annoying the coaching staff and teammates, causing some fan shouting matches, etc. no thanks.


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Vlad Rad is still hanging around the NBA?

I couldn't think of a better bench than Steve Novak, Scalabrine, and Jimmer. Let's do it. Sign them up.
 
gregbroncs said:
Good. Can we stop talking about this scrub now.
Fishon....2 threads in 2 days still think the support by his fan base is overblown?
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MehI feel like i have seen alot more talk about boozer round here lately
 
Does that mean the end of the Austin Rivers back up pg era?


I bet Tyreke helped recruit Jimmer.
 
How many 6' 1 white guys get three shots to make it in the NBA? He can shoot, but that's it. Best of luck to the kid, but I got to think a career in Europe may be more lucrative after this year.
 
candrew said:
Sacramento probably should have picked Alec Burks - right?
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Tbh, yes.
Or anyone besides jimmer really. I think jimmer has been worse than pretty much everyone else in top 20 of that draft
 
fishonjazz said:
Tbh, yes.
Or anyone besides jimmer really. I think jimmer has been worse than pretty much everyone else in top 20 of that draft
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Among all the first rounders in '11 draft, Jimmer is only better than 2-3 of them. Jajuan Johnson and Nolan Smith which were picked at 27 and 21. They both gonna play in Turkey upcoming season. Nolan Smith will play for the team i support Galatasaray.


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The Jimmer hate is overblown. Granted, the first time he came to Utah and his posse came out of the woodwork, that was uncomfortable and embarrassing. However, one thing few acknowledge is that none of these people are Jazz fans -- they're BYU fans. Perhaps an amount of selection bias but look at this board, for instance -- are there really any BYU basketball fans? In my experience, your average BYU basketball fan isn't a very avid Jazz fan, if at all. It's been a few years since Jimmer left BYU and a lot of those people part of Jimmermania have likely moved on to other places.

Anyhow, the idea that he's a bust is also funny. I think the problem we're running into is that you had the unrealistic movement (who weren't really Jazz fans) who viewed him as having a career trajectory consistent with his college career. It creates a very polarized view of him. I always thought JJ Redick was a good comparison for him, though everybody got pissed about that comparison. They both had pretty much identical numbers all the way through college. Redick was the guy I was hoping we'd land to play off the ball next to Deron so that we could actually get some shooting. We got Brewer, but I digress. Redick's first three years are essentially the same as Jimmer's have been. People called Redick a bust. Realizing what Redick is (and not assuming he's going to be an all-star or carry on in the same form as his collegiate performance), it's easier to see his value. Redick certainly doesn't suck and it's quite obvious he belongs in the league. I expect the same kind of trajectory for Jimmer and he'll eventually find himself playing a decent role on a decent team.

Bottom line is it's certainly not unreasonable for someone to want to bring in Jimmer for a minimum deal. If Jimmer played for Syracuse or Ohio State, there'd probably be about the same amount of people interested in him, just must less of a bitch-fest every time his name is mentioned.

/someone who doesn't care about BYU sports and thinks the BYU/Utah rivalry is the dumbest, most embarrassing thing about the state.
 
infection said:
The Jimmer hate is overblown. Granted, the first time he came to Utah and his posse came out of the woodwork, that was uncomfortable and embarrassing. However, one thing few acknowledge is that none of these people are Jazz fans -- they're BYU fans. Perhaps an amount of selection bias but look at this board, for instance -- are there really any BYU basketball fans? In my experience, your average BYU basketball fan isn't a very avid Jazz fan, if at all. It's been a few years since Jimmer left BYU and a lot of those people part of Jimmermania have likely moved on to other places.

Anyhow, the idea that he's a bust is also funny. I think the problem we're running into is that you had the unrealistic movement (who weren't really Jazz fans) who viewed him as having a career trajectory consistent with his college career. It creates a very polarized view of him. I always thought JJ Redick was a good comparison for him, though everybody got pissed about that comparison. They both had pretty much identical numbers all the way through college. Redick was the guy I was hoping we'd land to play off the ball next to Deron so that we could actually get some shooting. We got Brewer, but I digress. Redick's first three years are essentially the same as Jimmer's have been. People called Redick a bust. Realizing what Redick is (and not assuming he's going to be an all-star or carry on in the same form as his collegiate performance), it's easier to see his value. Redick certainly doesn't suck and it's quite obvious he belongs in the league. I expect the same kind of trajectory for Jimmer and he'll eventually find himself playing a decent role on a decent team.

Bottom line is it's certainly not unreasonable for someone to want to bring in Jimmer for a minimum deal. If Jimmer played for Syracuse or Ohio State, there'd probably be about the same amount of people interested in him, just must less of a bitch-fest every time his name is mentioned.

/someone who doesn't care about BYU sports and thinks the BYU/Utah rivalry is the dumbest, most embarrassing thing about the state.
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I agree with a lot of what you had to say. I agree in the right system Jimmer can be a JJ type role player. I would have paid him the minimum to be our 3rd point guard over Lucas.
I don't agree that somehow after Jimmer left all the byu basketball fans just disappeared. I would guess that 90% of the in state/non student BYU basketball fans are also utah jazz fans. Some being avid all the way down to casual fans.
 
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