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I think everyone is getting played. On one side you have Socialist and Communist and on the other you have Fascism and Authoritarianism. Then you have the media that turns it into a left vs. right, republicans vs. democrats, and Fox News vs. CNN issue when the whole time government continues to enrich small numbers of power people at the expense of the middle and lower classes. See either way the rich/powerful win because it doesn't matter which party is in control because they own them both. This is why the republicans took rights via the patriot act, using scare tactics based on 911, and spent money like it was going out of style to enrich there buddies and it is why the democrats do the same. The primary goal for each party is to slowly tax us into slavery, take away our rights, and vote themselves greater and greater authority over our lives.
 
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I heard a great comment today on the occupy movement. About 25-30 years ago society stopped keeping score and started handing out awards to everyone just for showing up regardless of participation level. That generation which has become accustomed to being rewarded just for showing up is now expecting to be rewarded for doing absolutely nothing.
 
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Sums up how I feel.
 
One Brow said:
That was a great example of the types of things the older generation has been saying about the younger generation for generations.
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The decline of roman society started somewhere. Or is that just something older generations of romans were saying about younger generations of romans for generations?
 
LogGrad98 said:
One Brow said:
That was a great example of the types of things the older generation has been saying about the younger generation for generations.
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The decline of roman society started somewhere. Or is that just something older generations of romans were saying about younger generations of romans for generations?
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OK, perhaps not in so many words, but isn't this pretty much what God said regarding Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden?


Sort of ironic that this latest movement all started in the BIG APPLE isn't it?
 
One Brow said:
Pretty much, even while Rome was in its ascendancy.
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So at some point it became true.


I am still interested in seeing all these quotes from Roman oldsters to Roman youngsters about their loud music and loose morals exactly like today.
 
It seems like the Occupy Movement just sort of fizzled out with Thanksgiving. . . or at least that is what the media wants us to believe.
 
One Brow said:
The first link I found mentions they existed:

https://www.news.leiden.edu/news/roman-boys-will-be-boys.html
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Interesting.

The Roman authors also had a biological explanation for this, explains Strubbe. This was the theory of the bodily humours. ‘ Young people were characterised by an excess of blood and heat. In the course of the years, they would cool down and become more balanced. There was no need to be overly concerned about them.’
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Strubbe: ‘Eyben’s error was in particular that he represented the image of the literary sources as the image of all Roman young men, while these sources relate to an elite youth in the city of Rome, such as the sons of senators and gentlemen who had nothing to do, or students in the later period of antiquity, far from parental authority.’
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But it is a matter of how a society treats that information. Is the behaviour condoned or not? What are the patterns of expectation? And do you see, for example, that unstable and unruly behaviour were considered less problematic in Roman society than in present-day society. For young men, at least. Girls had to preserve their virginity until marriage.’
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Well, no quotes from the older generation to the younger. From that article I gathered that the Romans society had a more lenient attitude toward youth, and that youth held a different distinction from today.

At age fifteen, boys were expected to be small adults, and also to fulfil public functions. Girls were marriageable at the age of twelve.
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I thought Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire was relevant fifty years ago, and I was just a teenager who wasn't drunk, doped out, or mesmerized by liberal mantras .

I also see a lot of hope in some of the rising generation who actually realize that the government is the problem, not the solution. Who know they've been sold out for a mess of pottage by a corrupt ageof so-called polictical leaders who've robbed the public treasury and handed over everything to a cliquie of bankers/cartelists, and driven folks off the land and resources , to put us in a dependent state of existence. Until we actually audit and reform the Fed, nothing will change. Until we dump the green mystics with their goddess Gaia who believe humans are a plague on the pristine planet, and realize that it's the polluting cartelists who are using the green ideals to drive people off the land and sequester the resources for themselves, and the politicians who are just lying to us every step of the way while they pass thousands-page bills filled with ripoffs of human rights and government powergrabs, which they don't even care to read. We've been had by the greatest "medicine show" in human history. Government that is going to take care of us.

But just enough youngsters are seeing Ron Paul as something different. And they are right. And that is real "hope".

Ron Paul is sending out a plea to his supporters. He has a new ad to run, which shows Mitt and Newt to be phony conservatives who will perpetuate the system while he will actually do something to bring our bleeding to an end and start the healing.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Well, no quotes from the older generation to the younger. From that article I gathered that the Romans society had a more lenient attitude toward youth, and that youth held a different distinction from today.
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OK. They said the same things about the younger generation that we hear the older generation say today, but they were more accepting of it. I have no problem with that statement.
 
babe said:
I thought Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire was relevant fifty years ago, and I was just a teenager who wasn't drunk, doped out, or mesmerized by liberal mantras .

I also see a lot of hope in some of the rising generation who actually realize that the government is the problem, not the solution. Who know they've been sold out for a mess of pottage by a corrupt ageof so-called polictical leaders who've robbed the public treasury and handed over everything to a cliquie of bankers/cartelists, and driven folks off the land and resources , to put us in a dependent state of existence. Until we actually audit and reform the Fed, nothing will change. Until we dump the green mystics with their goddess Gaia who believe humans are a plague on the pristine planet, and realize that it's the polluting cartelists who are using the green ideals to drive people off the land and sequester the resources for themselves, and the politicians who are just lying to us every step of the way while they pass thousands-page bills filled with ripoffs of human rights and government powergrabs, which they don't even care to read. We've been had by the greatest "medicine show" in human history. Government that is going to take care of us.

But just enough youngsters are seeing Ron Paul as something different. And they are right. And that is real "hope".

Ron Paul is sending out a plea to his supporters. He has a new ad to run, which shows Mitt and Newt to be phony conservatives who will perpetuate the system while he will actually do something to bring our bleeding to an end and start the healing.
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You lost me at Ron Paul.
 
Scat said:
You lost me at Ron Paul.
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you went through it all that far????

You are really going out on a limb actually reading my rants. And thanks for not parsing my whining sentence by sentence and trying to correct the spelling and infuse some reality into it all.
 
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