>=] OFFICAL GAME THREAD! Jazz @ Blazers

[fishonjazz]

You realize the reason hood gets great looks is usually the #1 defender is on Hayward.

I disagree.

I think hood doesn't always get great looks... But hood is just fantastic at making his own good looks even when defended well and can get a good shot off against any kind of defender due to his skills

 

[Bawse Dawg]

I disagree.

I think hood doesn't always get great looks... But hood is just fantastic at making his own good looks even when defended well and can get a good shot off against any kind of defender due to his skills

Yea, I would say Hood is already the guy I trust the most to get a basket. He's probably our best pure scorer. And only gonna get better. Hayward is more versatile. But hasn't yet become that great shooter we'd like him to be. I would like Hood to shoot 30% more shots or so, and get him to 20+PPG next season.

We've always said that Hayward would thrive as the #2 option on offense. Let's see if we were right.


As for the rest of the game... I hate acting like I know more than a head coach. But I'm so confused. Booker makes nice energy plays but he blows more fast breaks/layups (which always seem to lead to layups for the other team.) than any player I've ever seen. And he can't box out. With Gobert struggling and Booker being manhandled on rebounds Withey should have gotten 15-20 minutes easily.

How many teams use a 3 PG rotation?? Mack was playing great. If we continue to use all three down the stretch I'll be pissed. We don't owe Burke anything. And Mack needs to start.

 

[Maneesh]

Talking all tough on Twitter. He got man handled this game.

Even Chris Johnson looked tougher.

Gobert does not handle physical play well. Next step of the journey. Hayward went through this last year where teams got rough with him and he was taken out of games. He does a lot better with it now.

He is not talk tough. Even game on ESPN national guys were question calls Jazz were and were not get! Something seems foul. I can smell it and i can't understand. Of course players myst always rise above, but officiating I see is worst ever this year and especial last 10-20 game. Shame Ref! Shame NBA! Shame Silvers!

 

[Maneesh]

And the black ref underside second half seem particular to get Jazz!

 

[Maneesh]

1st quarter Jazz run like crazy and then they stop? Why? Why this shot for favors in post with 14 seconds left? Favors is pick and roll top of the key specialist not Al Jefferson! Why Snyder fell he must play burke? He take Mack out with jazz out foot on throat in first quarter for no reason. Snyder might be good develop coach, but my point is here that he is maybe not great in game strategist. This is problem after Cake is well done.

 

[fishonjazz]

Biggest difference between Hayward and hood scoring wise is elevation on their jumpers.
Hood can just elevate over his defender to get a good look wherever and wherever he wants.
Hayward doesn't elevate much at all and his release is lower too so he has to do allot of stepbacks and fadeaway and double pump and pump fake shots in order to get good looks.

Hood has better handles and is allot smoother with the ball too

 

[silesian]

Me and ugli were both all about mccollum in that draft

Me too. Lehigh grad/ homer here.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I think Hayward is better all around. Mccollum is a better scorer.

I think hood is better than Hayward offensively. Hood needs to be the guy with the ball in his hands the most imo

Plus, Hayward is at his best facilitating and making everyone around him better. Hood needs to be the guy being featured. I think everything works more naturally if they come around to that reality.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Plus, Hayward is at his best facilitating and making everyone around him better. Hood needs to be the guy being featured. I think everything works more naturally if they come around to that reality.

Umm, no. Does Hood get to the FT line? Hayward has probably gotten to the line more in the last two games than Hood has gotten in his last 10. Hayward is still the one who is better with the ball and a better passer. I don't now wtf "featured" really means though as we already have Hood as a extremely high usage player.

 

[akirac73]

Umm, no. Does Hood get to the FT line? Hayward has probably gotten to the line more in the last two games than Hood has gotten in his last 10. Hayward is still the one who is better with the ball and a better passer. I don't now wtf "featured" really means though as we already have Hood as a extremely high usage player.

It's not that hard to understand...Hayward is the better facilitator (which you agree with), and Hood is the better shooter/scorer.

 

[♪alt13]

It's not that hard to understand...Hayward is the better facilitator (which you agree with), and Hood is the better shooter/scorer.

From what I can tell NBA teams disagree with you. Hayward draws more defense.

 

[fishonjazz]

Hayward does get to the line allot.

Hayward and lebron average the exact same amount of minutes. Hayward gets to the line 6.2 times per game and lebron 6.7 times per game.

That should dispel the myth that Hayward doesn't get calls/respect from the refs.

 

[Getting Traded]

Hayward does get to the line allot.

Hayward and lebron average the exact same amount of minutes. Hayward gets to the line 6.2 times per game and lebron 6.7 times per game.

That should dispel the myth that Hayward doesn't get calls/respect from the refs.

I'll bet if Lebron got hammered as much as Hayward, he'd go to the line 10 plus times per game. Players have more freedom to hack Hayward because they know the refs are going to give Lebron the calls and they have to be more careful.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Biggest difference between Hayward and hood scoring wise is elevation on their jumpers.
Hood can just elevate over his defender to get a good look wherever and wherever he wants.
Hayward doesn't elevate much at all and his release is lower too so he has to do allot of stepbacks and fadeaway and double pump and pump fake shots in order to get good looks.

Hood has better handles and is allot smoother with the ball too

Hayward can play into contact but Rodney is just great at getting his own shot from good spots. Part of the reason he doesn't go to the line is he can get clean looks with his handle and the way he moves. That pick in roll where he keeps the guy on his back and either get a layup or 8-10 footer is great.

I think Hayward is good with the ball in his hands but can't get his own shot as well as Hood. Hayward is a foul magnet and is a good passer. I think Hood is the number one iso player by some measure in the NBA... might be shooting percentage. I think the offense needs to just swing the ball to either guy until they have a mismatch/advantage and let the offense come naturally. I think when we need a bucket late we should let Rodney go to work... unless G time has a mismatch.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'll bet if Lebron got hammered as much as Hayward, he'd go to the line 10 plus times per game.

Him and Favors kill me every game. Hayward got nailed on one of his drives late... Favs got karate chop/tackled on a dunk and no foul... Lillard drives and Favs makes contact as he is moving along side of him and packs his ****... FOUL! of course.

We are very respectful as a team with the refs, but I do think someone needs to get after the refs... Stotts picked up the tech and got a BS loose ball foul on Favs directly after. Both calls that Stotts argue were fairly obvious too... no need for a make up call at all.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Him and Favors kill me every game. Hayward got nailed on one of his drives late... Favs got karate chop/tackled on a dunk and no foul... Lillard drives and Favs makes contact as he is moving along side of him and packs his ****... FOUL! of course.

We are very respectful as a team with the refs, but I do think someone needs to get after the refs... Stotts picked up the tech and got a BS loose ball foul on Favs directly after. Both calls that Stotts argue were fairly obvious too... no need for a make up call at all.

Also the play where Hood got hammered on the fade away... you could call a foul whether you saw contact or not and be right 90% of the time. That is an almost impossible shot to block cleanly.

 

[ijazz]

Despite all the craziness of the game, refs, etc....

We had the ball, down 2, on the road, 21 seconds left, no shot clock.

We absolutely should have worked the offense and gone for a game winning 3......

Dumb Dumb play call to go to favors right away.

Even if he hits it , odds are still we lose with Blazer making last shot.....

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Despite all the craziness of the game, refs, etc....

We had the ball, down 2, on the road, 21 seconds left, no shot clock.

We absolutely should have worked the offense and gone for a game winning 3......

Dumb Dumb play call to go to favors right away.

Even if he hits it , odds are still we lose with Blazer making last shot.....

I think that was just the first action and the play broke down. I think when favs saw it was one on one he just went for it. If that was the call I agree with the general sentiment but I'm not sure that's how things were designed.

Ideally I'd like Hayward or Rodney to get the ball moving towards the basket on a pick nd roll or do the cross screen action to get lillard on one of them... If the defense collapses kick it out for the three.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Also the play where Hood got hammered on the fade away... you could call a foul whether you saw contact or not and be right 90% of the time. That is an almost impossible shot to block cleanly.

One of my pet peeves is refs at any level that don't play basketball regularly... If you play you know this stuff from first hand experience.

 

[NAOS]

Favors got mauled repeatedly. It was hard to watch without my temper heating up to an obnoxious level.