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Yes, PKM and I know more than the rest. It has always been this way.

On a side note, whatever happened to Stoked? Name change or did he just leave?
 
Hantlers said:
With him, they beat Duke. Without him, they lost to Wyoming.

Post season wins and losses. They matter.
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Two different years, but OK. Post season wins do matter. Against Duke he was 9-24 for 37.5%. The rest of the team was 13-28 (46%). Wyoming was a road game that they lost by 1 pt. Maybe they lose with or without him. We'll never know. Look, what can I tell ya? I've got concerns. He might end up being a very good player I just don't think he's a PG. Just my opinion.
 
My2Cents said:
Two different years, but OK. Post season wins do matter. Against Duke he was 9-24 for 37.5%. The rest of the team was 13-28 (46%). Wyoming was a road game that they lost by 1 pt. Maybe they lose with or without him. We'll never know. Look, what can I tell ya? I've got concerns. He might end up being a very good player I just don't think he's a PG. Just my opinion.
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"They had the best player on the court tonight in McCollum," Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "He's been their player of the year, and he's really one of the outstanding players in the country. You could see why tonight."

Once again, selective stats you're using. He ended up with 30 points, 6 rebounds, and 6 assists while leading his 15th ranked team over the #2 ranked team. That right there...that settles a lot of my concerns.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
So everyone was really into McCollum then Locke did a video on him and now everyone is really down on McCollum? Just goes to show you no one on here actually watches games and usually form baseless opinions then when a little shred of material becomes available it greatly sways their opinion.
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For me Schröder appeared out of the ashes right around the same time.

I still like McCollum but I prefer Schröder
 
Hantlers said:
"They had the best player on the court tonight in McCollum," Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "He's been their player of the year, and he's really one of the outstanding players in the country. You could see why tonight."

Once again, selective stats you're using. He ended up with 30 points, 6 rebounds, and 6 assists while leading his 15th ranked team over the #2 ranked team. That right there...that settles a lot of my concerns.
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So Krzyzewski paid a compliment to a player in a post game interview. Wow, he's never done that before. What more proof do you need.
 
My2Cents said:
So Krzyzewski paid a compliment to a player in a post game interview. Wow, he's never done that before. What more proof do you need.
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When one of the greatest coaches of all times says that a player is one of the most outstanding in the country, then I tend to listen. Continue ignoring everything else though, I mean, I'm sure you wouldn't want a guy that puts up 30, 6 and 6 in the biggest game of his life.
 
Hantlers said:
When one of the greatest coaches of all times says that a player is one of the most outstanding in the country, then I tend to listen. Continue ignoring everything else though, I mean, I'm sure you wouldn't want a guy that puts up 30, 6 and 6 in the biggest game of his life.
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What am I ignoring? You complain about selective stats but use one game to try to prove your point. You don't think I can't find games where he didn't play well? How about the very next game against Xavier? 14 pts. on 5-22 shooting, 1 assist and 4 TO's. You think he's a can't miss prospect based on one game?
 
My2Cents said:
What am I ignoring? You complain about selective stats but use one game to try to prove your point. You don't think I can't find games where he didn't play well? How about the very next game against Xavier? 14 pts. on 5-22 shooting, 1 assist and 4 TO's. You think he's a can't miss prospect based on one game?
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No, using selective stats would be using only one stat from a game to prove that he's an ineffective player. Like you leaving out his one good stat from that game (rebounds) to prove your point.

Obviously he had a bad game against Xavier, not a surprise. Xavier is typically known for playing very physical, and very good perimeter defense.

Nowhere did I say that McCollum is a can't miss prospect, I just think that he's a good prospect. One of my favorite guards from this draft. In my mind, he'll have an impact similar to Lillard. He probably won't put up the numbers that Lillard did (nor is he a similar player), but I see them eventually making a similar impact.
 
Hantlers said:
No, using selective stats would be using only one stat from a game to prove that he's an ineffective player. Like you leaving out his one good stat from that game (rebounds) to prove your point.

Obviously he had a bad game against Xavier, not a surprise. Xavier is typically known for playing very physical, and very good perimeter defense.

Nowhere did I say that McCollum is a can't miss prospect, I just think that he's a good prospect. One of my favorite guards from this draft. In my mind, he'll have an impact similar to Lillard. He probably won't put up the numbers that Lillard did (nor is he a similar player), but I see them eventually making a similar impact.
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Lots of "caveats" now I see...
 
Hantlers said:
No, using selective stats would be using only one stat from a game to prove that he's an ineffective player. Like you leaving out his one good stat from that game (rebounds) to prove your point.

Obviously he had a bad game against Xavier, not a surprise. Xavier is typically known for playing very physical, and very good perimeter defense.

Nowhere did I say that McCollum is a can't miss prospect, I just think that he's a good prospect. One of my favorite guards from this draft. In my mind, he'll have an impact similar to Lillard. He probably won't put up the numbers that Lillard did (nor is he a similar player), but I see them eventually making a similar impact.
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Or like looking at 30, 6, and 6, while ignoring his shooting percentage. I didn't leave his rebounds out to prove a point, I just don't think it's a stat that necessarily relates to whether he can be an efficient scoring PG. He actually rebounds very well for his position. Again, I'm not saying he's not a good prospect, I just don't think he's a PG. You could be right though, he does remind me a little bit of Lillard.
 
My2Cents said:
Or like looking at 30, 6, and 6, while ignoring his shooting percentage. I didn't leave his rebounds out to prove a point, I just don't think it's a stat that necessarily relates to whether he can be an efficient scoring PG. He actually rebounds very well for his position. Again, I'm not saying he's not a good prospect, I just don't think he's a PG. You could be right though, he does remind me a little bit of Lillard.
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The end result is all that matters. I don't care how it gets done, just as long as it gets done and I get a win.
 
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