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A-Train (old)
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#46?
A-Train (old)
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I wouldn't be surprised if Siva goes undrafted.
A-Train (old)
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David Stern
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Larkin is completely a smokescreen at this point, I don't think we're drafting him at 14. 21 maybe, but I seriously doubt it. I would love him as a backup PG, no question about it. I'm stoked to see that we're bringing in Soloman Hill, he's a baller and would be a steal in the 2nd round.
Agree with erry word.
Fishsticks
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I'd like to see fellow las vegan p jax in a jazz uniform. I think he could be a solid back up pg. change of pace guards are always nice to have.
spycam1
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I wonder if we'll eventually bring in Shabazz for a work out?
And if Minny would do a deal with us to get someone like KCP, then would they really need another young SG in Burks? Maybe packaging both our picks would be enough to move up and we'd get to keep Burks.
I think realistically, we're looking to trade up for McCollum, draft Schroeder at 14, and are really considering Wolters at #21, with other back-up plans in each scenario.....like Zeller, Shabazz, Saric, Bullock and Dieng.
Edit: Sorry for the spacing issues, it looks good in the message box until it's actually posted
Stat comparisons (per 40 pace adjusted) for commonly made player comparisons – Lawson vs Larkin; Fredette vs. Wolters
Lawson is slightly bigger/longer. Larkin measured as somewhat better athlete.
Lawson vs. Larkin after sophomore year (both age 20, in same conference, both high quality teams):
Pts 17.7 16.4
FG% 51.5 47.9
2p% 58.2 53.8
3p% 36.1 40.6
FTA 5.0 3.5
Reb 3.8 4.3
Asts 7.2 5.1
Stls 2.2 2.2
TOs 3.1 2.6
TS% 62 60
P/pos 1.16 1.06
A/TO 2.36 2.00
Wolters is 2.75” taller, has 0.75” shorter wingspan and 1.5” higher reach than Fredette. Athletic comparison not available because of Wolters’s injury in Combine.
Fredette vs. Wolters senior year (both 21 at draft; Jimmer played somewhat tougher competition)
Pts 30.0 24.0
FG% 45.2 48.0
2p% 49.1 53.2
3p% 39.6 38.0
FTA 7.9 7.6
Reb 3.6 5.8
Asts 4.5 6.2
Stls 1.4 1.9
TOs 3.7 2.6
TS% 59 60
P/pos 1.20 1.16
A/TO 1.22 2.40
(For one more comparison: Hornacek, perhaps an inch shorter than Wolters, was his team’s 2nd leading scorer playing in a strong conference at the same age, his junior year; Hornacek per 40 averaged 14.7 pts, 52.1 FG%, 3.3 FTA, 4.2 reb, 5.7 asts, 2.2 stls, 2.4 TO, 2.41 A/TO; Jeff’s FG% dropped to 47.8 his senior year, however.)
Takeaways?
I know stats are only a part of the picture, but I worry about Larkin’s inability to operate close to the rim (despite superior athletic testing) and play-make at Lawson’s level, but wonder if his better jumpshooting makes up for it.
If Jimmer can stick around in the league (and I think he probably will, if just barely), I think Wolters has a good shot to do as well or better. Wolters’ game looks statistically somewhat more similar to Hornacek’s than to Fredette’s. (Actually it’s Erick Green whose statistical profile this year seems closest to Jimmer’s.)
Stat comparisons (per 40 pace adjusted) for commonly made player comparisons – Lawson vs Larkin; Fredette vs. Wolters
Lawson is slightly bigger/longer. Larkin measured as somewhat better athlete.
Lawson vs. Larkin after sophomore year (both age 20, in same conference, both high quality teams):
Pts 17.7 16.4
FG% 51.5 47.9
2p% 58.2 53.8
3p% 36.1 40.6
FTA 5.0 3.5
Reb 3.8 4.3
Asts 7.2 5.1
Stls 2.2 2.2
TOs 3.1 2.6
TS% 62 60
P/pos 1.16 1.06
A/TO 2.36 2.00
Wolters is 2.75” taller, has 0.75” shorter wingspan and 1.5” higher reach than Fredette. Athletic comparison not available because of Wolters’s injury in Combine.
Fredette vs. Wolters senior year (both 21 at draft; Jimmer played somewhat tougher competition)
Pts 30.0 24.0
FG% 45.2 48.0
2p% 49.1 53.2
3p% 39.6 38.0
FTA 7.9 7.6
Reb 3.6 5.8
Asts 4.5 6.2
Stls 1.4 1.9
TOs 3.7 2.6
TS% 59 60
P/pos 1.20 1.16
A/TO 1.22 2.40
(For one more comparison: Hornacek, perhaps an inch shorter than Wolters, was his team’s 2nd leading scorer playing in a strong conference at the same age, his junior year; Hornacek per 40 averaged 14.7 pts, 52.1 FG%, 3.3 FTA, 4.2 reb, 5.7 asts, 2.2 stls, 2.4 TO, 2.41 A/TO; Jeff’s FG% dropped to 47.8 his senior year, however.)
Takeaways?
I know stats are only a part of the picture, but I worry about Larkin’s inability to operate close to the rim (despite superior athletic testing) and play-make at Lawson’s level, but wonder if his better jumpshooting makes up for it.
If Jimmer can stick around in the league (and I think he probably will, if just barely), I think Wolters has a good shot to do as well or better. Wolters’ game looks statistically somewhat more similar to Hornacek’s than to Fredette’s. (Actually it’s Erick Green whose statistical profile this year seems closest to Jimmer’s.)
Yep, hope you're right. No clue what the Jazz are thinking about Wolters, but I could probably live with either Larkin or Wolters at 21 (though there are also many other interesting players there). Wolters at 46 would be a complete no-brainer for me, but he won't be there.
Watching this all I see is ALLEN IVERSON! His game will translate very well to NBA. BUT, I don't think he can guard any one.
orangello
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Which one of those guys has lead their team to a first round victory?