Is he better than Shelvin Mack though?
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Is he better than Shelvin Mack though?
Crawlnstall
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No way boston does that trade. Ingram has tons of potential and they love Crowder.
Ainge is a stickler of a GM when it comes to trades. I'd be surprised if he agreed to a trade of Hayward+12th pick for Ingram...
orangello
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akirac73
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I'd kick up our end a bit...Hayward + Burke + 2016 1st + 2016 2nd + take on a ****ty contract, for Ingram.
RandyForRubio
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In some ways.
And Mack can't play the 2, Rivers can.
I'd probably take Rivers over Mack.
NAOS
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does Boston have a ****ty contract?
They are nearly the exact same size according to DX besides head height. They both shoot about the same (but Rivers has a much uglier shot IMO).
mellow
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No, Ainge rules on all fronts.
green
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I'd buy that excuse if we weren't 8 million under the cap.
Seriously, this is a horrible trade. How do you even know if Ingram is going to be better than Hayward. I wasn't blow away with Ingram's performance in the NCAA. Celtics don't need Burke. I don't get the "trade hayward" ideas. Trading Hayward better bring back something better than a potential young guy or the Jazz are going to be worse.
Jazz need to get a better bench and get everyone healthy. They can go after a stud FA guy once they have proven they are a solid playoff team. Lateral moves do not make us better and gambling on "potential" will keep us in the lottery for years.
Miggs
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True, then we could've ruined our cap flexibility by signing someone to a 4 year, 32M deal. Or maybe no one wanted to sign here.
RandyForRubio
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Just more of a skill set thing IMO. I think Rivers plays the 2 a lot better than Mack.
Nothing that we don't already have IMO.
He is an undersized SG who can play some point. He can't finish at the rim vs size, he can't shoot FT's, he can't really shoot that well at all. He has some nice 1-on-1 moves that he gets himself open with, but not a good finisher or shooter. He has become a pretty good guard defender against 1's and 2's, but I wouldn't call it great.
Carbon13
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Thanks Cy. Thats exactly how i would have described based on my limited observations. No thanks on Rivers on my opinion. I think we could do better by going a lot of other ways.
I mean, I wouldn't be mad at signing him. To me he is a 4th wing (at best)/Emergency 3rd PG. I do admire his toughness playing with the swollen eye, so he is pretty cool.
mellow
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So Locke was busy breaking down possible trade scenarios for Holiday and Hill yesterday. Are those the two players the jazz were trying to trade for?
Indiana may be on the verge of breaking things up. They haven't made a decision on keeping Coach Vogel, they have Paul George, Rodney Stuckey and Monta Ellis under contract beyond next season and then there is this:
Bill Simmons: Also hearing that the Lakers want to make a BIG run at Paul George with their top-3 pick plus other stuff. (Not that they’d get him…) – via Twitter BillSimmons
Indiana may be on the verge of breaking things up. They haven't made a decision on keeping Coach Vogel, they have Paul George, Rodney Stuckey and Monta Ellis under contract beyond next season and then there is this:
Bill Simmons: Also hearing that the Lakers want to make a BIG run at Paul George with their top-3 pick plus other stuff. (Not that they’d get him…) – via Twitter BillSimmons
Hate this. Cousins is not an efficient player. At all. I used to think he could become an offensive hub but the guy is regressing. He puts up numbers kinda like Iverson did.