He has a huge wingspan, so that probably helps in that regard. First step is different than being able to shuffle your feet also. Shane Battier can shuffle his feet, he doesn't have a first step.
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He has a huge wingspan, so that probably helps in that regard. First step is different than being able to shuffle your feet also. Shane Battier can shuffle his feet, he doesn't have a first step.
I'll be happy with either Vonleh or Randle... Vonleh's a better fit long term with his shooting, but Randle's #Hunger will make an immediate impact.
I'm not expecting Vonleh to be anything more than a somewhat tougher version or Rashard Lewis, Donyell Marshall or Vin Baker. If he's more than that, then great, but I'm not expecting it.
I like Vonleh as much as the next guy, but I have concerns about his quickness limiting his upside. It could be related to his playing center, but I'd like to see him get a step on his defender and dunk the ball.
I like Vonleh as much as the next guy, but I have concerns about his quickness limiting his upside. It could be related to his playing center, but I'd like to see him get a step on his defender and dunk the ball.
Vonleh can handle better than the guys I just mentioned, but I'm not sure exactly what that will translate to. He can iso and cross-over out on the floor, but if he doesn't get all the way to the rim, what's the point? I guess the same goes for Randle though.
The Thriller
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I've heard c bosh is his highest ceiling.
Yes.
The same bosh who got killed by 100 year old Duncan and fat Diaw.
Anyone wonder how bosh would have done against a 07 version of duncan/Diaw?
I'll pass. There's gotta be something better at 5.
Yes.
The same bosh who got killed by 100 year old Duncan and fat Diaw.
Anyone wonder how bosh would have done against a 07 version of duncan/Diaw?
I'll pass. There's gotta be something better at 5.
Coach Ellis
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I'd rather take a chance on Aaron Gordon's upside and athleticism. His shooting is a concern, but I do expect it to improve with work and coaching. How much better remains to be seen, but I have a lot of faith in him. I think that he's a great fit for the Jazz and will become the top player on the team and face of the franchise in short order. Every top prospect has major question marks, but I'd rather gamble on Gordon's shooting over Exum's ability to translate vs. elite competition or Vonleh's lack of production.
Gordon is talented, driven and coach-able. I really like him and hope he's the pick (barring a trade up for either Wiggins or Parker who are still my top two options.)
Jazz4ever
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Due to lack of options, Miami had to make Bosh their center. Vonleh would be playing PF almost exclusively. Favors or Gobert would be guarding the Duncans, Howards, Gasols, etc
An 07' Bosh was a beast, averaged 23/10.
d@!!0n0rcutt
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This.
mellow
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Chad Ford and Locke were talking about this. They compared Vonleh to Karl Malone. I'm not sure I see that, but I haven't watched the film or workouts they have.
seattlejazzfan
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It's going to be Randle. This has nothing to do with the fact that I like JR as a prospect. Randle was made for the Jazz. Good dude, intelligent, hard worker, tough, winner - the only thing he's missing is that he's not white, but occasionally the Jazz have allowed black guys on their roster, so I don't think that will be an issue.
Stifle Tower
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Bosh also stated this season that he was DONE with playing inside. Not that he was ever that tough, but you can't have a 5 just flat out unwillingly to battle inside. I can't use the word, but Bosh has always been a but of a pansy (can I use that one?).
Stifle Tower
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Fixed.
And I hope you are wrong. If the net result of this season of despair was to replace Millsap with Randle, the Jazz will have lost my support completely. They could have kept Millsap and drafted around 12th, adding someone like Stauskas, McBuckets or Harris.
Hantlers
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Julius Randle is Carlos Boozer with a better handle, and worse jump shot.
Or at least that's the impact he would make. Pretty good offense, good rebounder, absolutely terrible defender. For all of his "hunger" and "drive", decent wingspan and supposed athleticism, he couldn't make an impact at the defensive end against overmatched college players. Blah.
Or at least that's the impact he would make. Pretty good offense, good rebounder, absolutely terrible defender. For all of his "hunger" and "drive", decent wingspan and supposed athleticism, he couldn't make an impact at the defensive end against overmatched college players. Blah.
Step off the hyperbole. If 1-4 is Wiggins/Parker/Embiid/Exum in some order, there isn't something better at 5. At least not obviously, and almost certainly not Julius Randle or Aaron Gordon.
Stifle Tower
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Agree 100%.
I find it funny that many want us to "swing for the fences" with Exum, or even Embiid with a bad back. Taking Randle ahead of Vonleh or Gordon is the antithesis of that strategy.