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OFFICIAL: Trade Deadline Thread

Stoked said:
Id' say by a combination of waiving incoming players and considering the buyout of Bell and the removal of players like Watson, Murphy and Evans.
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Not sure if you need to have roster spots available in order to make the trade. I think before you can waive an incoming player, he has to be part of your roster. Maybe one of the board experts can weigh in on this one.

But yes, I agree on releasing current Jazz players: if Bledsoe is part of a deal, you don't really need Watson. Tinsley is the backup and Foye and Burks can be the 3rd PG's until Mo returns. Bell and Murphy are very expendable. Evans is also expendable, but as a last resort. It's nice to have a contract of his size for future trade possibilities. And he's a great teammate.

As for the "The Domino," I think it's Garnett. He'd be #1 on my list. Josh Smith is good, but he's way overvalued (by himself). Everyone knows he's just a rental...unless a lower-tier team wants to pay him the MAX to be their cornerstone. Bobcats, Pelicans?

AS for the Jazz, I think it's really a tough decision for the FO to make. Favors at PF and Jefferson at C would seem to be a better fit. But Millsap has been a company man for so long. Can they convince Favors to play half his minutes at C so Millsap can start at PF? Also, Jefferson, although likely to command a higher salary, might be easier to re-sign than Millsap. I think there's a real fear the Jazz could trade one and then lose the other in free agency. Or be held hostage by the remaining player who would demand a lot more, knowing that the Jazz really need to keep him.
 
Hack said:
I think the Jazz would be stupid to let that get in the way. If the right deal is there, then cut Raja and/or Murphy. That shouldnt hold up a deal.
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Stoked said:
Id' say by a combination of waiving incoming players and considering the buyout of Bell and the removal of players like Watson, Murphy and Evans.
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Correct, but this **** costs dough. Does Greggy want to open up the wallet?

Obviously Bell, Murphy, and Watson are adding basically nothing to the win column.
 
MoTown16 said:
Not sure if you need to have roster spots available in order to make the trade...before you waive an incoming player. Maybe one of the board experts can weigh in on this one.
But yes, I agree on releasing current Jazz players: if Bledsoe is part of a deal, you don't really need Watson. Tinsley is the backup and Foye and Burks can be the 3rd PG's until Mo returns. Bell and Murphy are very expendable. Evans is also expendable, but as a last resort. It's nice to have a contract of his size for future trade possibilities. And he's a great teammate.
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I can't say for sure, but I bet you'd need to have roster spots for all incoming players, even ones you plan on waiving.
 
Do people know that you must save your trade in trade machine before posting it? It sure does not seem like that is the case.
 
NAOS said:
Great question.

I'm wondering how our roster flexibility is factoring into these talks. We have a full roster, so how do we trade BOTH Al and Paul when most deals probably have us taking back more players? Etc.
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It should make no difference. We can trade Bell's expiring or Murphy or Evans, both of who mean nuthing and both of who are nuthing.
 
Well I obviously don`t.

Lakers out: Pau Gasol
Lakers in: S Jax, Bell, Blair

LAC out: Bledsoe, Odom
LAC in: Millsap, Neal

Spurs out: S Jax, Blair, Neal
Spurs in: Jefferson


Jazz out: Jefferson, Millsap, Bell
Jazz in: Gasol, Bledsoe, Odom
 
NAOS said:
Correct, but this **** costs dough. Does Greggy want to open up the wallet?

Obviously Bell, Murphy, and Watson are adding basically nothing to the win column.
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Ppl Greggy is paying Bell to sit in Miami right now. If he waives him he doesn't lose any money.
 
A team must create open roster spots before the trade takes place and can't waive an incoming player. It can waive an incoming player IF they have roster spots to insert them into their roster. So any trade of 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 would mean the Jazz would have to waive one or two players on the roster beforehand.
 
Lion's Roar said:
Ppl Greggy is paying Bell to sit in Miami right now. If he waives him he doesn't lose any money.
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But Raja gets more after he signs with another team and THAT'S NOT FAIR. I have a 7-yr old child and fairness is a BIG DEAL to her. I imagine it has the same importance to Greggy Boy.
 
Matt Moore @HPbasketball Atlanta's doing this perfectly. Trade value on Smith going up up up with suitors.

Isn't Atlanta leaking rumours about his availability and the players they may want in return. As opposed to the Jazz method of keeping everyone guessing if they are going to make a trade and if so which player would be available.

Also caught this from Brian Colangelo, toronto GM:


Sam Amick @sam_amick : Colangelo called Bargnani situation "fluid,"said Rudy Gay's presence changed dynamics & now less urgency to move him- usatoday.com/story/sports/n…

Using the media to up the asking price for a player everyone knows is going to move. Not sure if it works for Bargs, but I admire Colangelo's effort. If you only have one bidder, and the starting price is low this is a good strategy. Maybe that is what KOL have been doing all along?

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So, it's possible that the Lakers are open to the idea of trading Dwight. If that's the case, then other deals may be put on hold while this all shakes out.

https://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-pm-lakers-considering-howard-trade/

In other words, if Clips can get Dwight for Bledsoe/Odom/Jordan, then the Millsap thing probably isn't going to happen. The Jazz will need a back-up plan. The other possibility would be a Brooklyn deal or Houston deal......or no deal. A team isn't going to trade for Dwight unless they think he'll re-sign with them.
 
Catchall said:
So, it's possible that the Lakers are open to the idea of trading Dwight. If that's the case, then other deals may be put on hold while this all shakes out.

https://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-pm-lakers-considering-howard-trade/

In other words, if Clips can get Dwight for Bledsoe/Odom/Jordan, then the Millsap thing probably isn't going to happen. The Jazz will need a back-up plan. The other possibility would be a Brooklyn deal or Houston deal......or no deal. A team isn't going to trade for Dwight unless they think he'll re-sign with them.
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Raja for Dwight anyone?
 
Okay, follow my logic (what little there is) ----

Houston makes a move for Al Jefferson or Paul Millsap to clear cap room to sign Dwight this summer. Although, I'm not sure how much salary the Jazz would want to take back. This gives the Rockets more leverage in a Dwight trade negotiation.

Brooklyn: See Houston.
 
Sports Whispers ‏@SportsWhispers
Utah Jazz are in the reviewing stages of whether to deal Jefferson or Millsap. One is sure to be moved.

Spencer Ryan Hall ‏@saltcityhoops
@whitmax85 I think the Millsap/Bledsoe thing might have legs, amazingly. Heard some things tonight.
 
Flc said:
Sports Whispers ‏@SportsWhispers
Utah Jazz are in the reviewing stages of whether to deal Jefferson or Millsap. One is sure to be moved.

Spencer Ryan Hall ‏@saltcityhoops
@whitmax85 I think the Millsap/Bledsoe thing might have legs, amazingly. Heard some things tonight.
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This dude needs to tell before I get upset!
 
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