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I wonder how much of this is an East Coast/NJ vs. Utahr thing too. What I mean is that NJ is the most densely populated state and I would assume response times by law enforcement to 911 calls and such are on average quicker (much quicker?) than many places in Utahr that could be more remote and out of the way. Having said that, for me, locking all my doors, having an alarm system on all doors and windows, and having a dog that's a Chow mix and looks sort of like a wolf makes me feel secure and outweighs any fear, for lack of a better word, I have that my home will be invaded.

Oh yeah, and Trout, you sound like you're a dumbass and will shoot yourself like Plaxico Burress. Please abort all notions of the purchase.

I think you make a pretty good point. In rural areas guns are not alarming. They have a place and serve a purpose that most people understand. In large densely populated cities guns are not normaly carried around and probably the majority are unfamiliar with their use. People in these cities feel like guns are not needed. When they see or hear about guns it is because thugs used them in the commission of a crime, or to kill each other or innocent people. They then decide that guns are bad and that nobody needs them at all for anything. Then they try to tell rural people what they can and can't have and create rules that simply baffle people who have experience with guns.

I've often said the people that make our nation's gun laws are like the people who make Utah's liquor laws; they don't understand them and think that they are unnecessary.

When it comes to regulations, let the people who know about the subject matter make the rules please.

The "Assault Weapons" Ban was about as silly and pointless as Utah's 3.2 alcohol limit for beer.
 
I wonder how much of this is an East Coast/NJ vs. Utahr thing too. What I mean is that NJ is the most densely populated state and I would assume response times by law enforcement to 911 calls and such are on average quicker (much quicker?) than many places in Utahr that could be more remote and out of the way. Having said that, for me, locking all my doors, having an alarm system on all doors and windows, and having a dog that's a Chow mix and looks sort of like a wolf makes me feel secure and outweighs any fear, for lack of a better word, I have that my home will be invaded.

Oh yeah, and Trout, you sound like you're a dumbass and will shoot yourself like Plaxico Burress. Please abort all notions of the purchase.



Your mood might change if you moved to a worse neighborhood. My gun would kill your dog and you, and have plenty extra time to make a ham sammy before disappearing into the densly populated night. That is how I boil it down and demographics don't change anything.

Your point on opinion linked to area is valid though.
 
Your mood might change if you moved to a worse neighborhood. My gun would kill your dog and you, and have plenty extra time to make a ham sammy before disappearing into the densly populated night. That is how I boil it down and demographics don't change anything.

Your point on opinion linked to area is valid though.

Obviously my mood may change in a bad area. That goes without saying. But I highly doubt you or any other intruder would just, unprovoked, come up to my room, kill me and my dog, and then walk back downstairs and sit around making and eating a ham sandwich, while my alarm is blaring the entire time. That's not their MO and it's absolutely beyond Beanclown dumb.
 
Obviously my mood may change in a bad area. That goes without saying. But I highly doubt you or any other intruder would just, unprovoked, come up to my room, kill me and my dog, and then walk back downstairs and sit around making and eating a ham sandwich, while my alarm is blaring the entire time. That's not their MO and it's absolutely beyond Beanclown dumb.

Is it menstral time here or what?
You asked and gave a personalize situation. That's what I responded to.
 
What the hell do you think's going to happen while you're hunting? The Fish Game and Wildlife Commission for the state is going to immediately initiate Fatass Game Season?

That, and I don't want a bear or some dumbass hiker who is hopped up on weed and shrooms to try and make me his bitch. I'm pretty feminine you know, and to a ****ed up woods dweller like GVC, I'm sure I'm plenty porkable.
 
I hope you had a grin on your face when you typed that out, because, damn -- that's funny.

I was expecting a lower grade of humor. . . . something like "Hey, man, maybe it'd be better if you didn't try to put on airs".

I know a lot of folks who have heavy weoponry just in case the Chinese come marching into Utah. Man I wish some of them had brains.
 
I'd also like some suggestions for decent hand guns.

I suggest the Taurus Judge in 3 inch mag. It will fire .45 colt as well as .410 shotgun shells. Of course, the shotgun shells are the awesome part. There's something very satisfying about pulling the trigger once, and putting 5 holes in the target. That's with 000 buckshot. There's also some pretty crazy ammo from winchester that squashes the 000 buck into disks, and puts them in front of bird shot, all copper plated.

If you really want to carry it in a shoulder holster though, I'd go with the public defender. Same thing, only in a more compact model, but only shoots the 2 1/2 shotshells, instead of the 3 inch mags.

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https://www.winchester.com/Products/shotshell-ammunition/supreme-elite/pdx1410/Pages/S410PDX1.aspx
 
I like the idea, Freak, but that gun looks like it might be the Richard Simmons model. I was thinking along the lines of something that didn't scream, "I'm gay!".
 
I like the idea, Freak, but that gun looks like it might be the Richard Simmons model. I was thinking along the lines of something that didn't scream, "I'm gay!".

So, you're more interested in how the gun looks as an accessory, than actual fire power? I'm pretty sure that's the very defintion of gay. Anyway, I'm guessing what you mean is that you would prefer a semi-auto over a revolver. I have a Glock 23 that comes in as a close 2nd to my Judge, and is much lighter. Definately preferable if you're really going to pack it around.

Oh, and the Judges also come in different finishes, for those who want to match their shoes, sunglasses, etc.
 
I like the idea, Freak, but that gun looks like it might be the Richard Simmons model. I was thinking along the lines of something that didn't scream, "I'm gay!".


Rest easy Trout, I shoot my fathers Judge quite alot. Let me assure that the larger gun in that picture is a hand cannon. I would not even try to carry a pistol that was any larger. You pull that on someone and your sexual prefrence will not be questioned. I'd prefer black though but that is a sweet gun. Plus it is just damn fun to shoot.
 
I'm too lazy to really try and read about Utah's open carry laws. In a nutshell, I can legally carry a gun on my hip or in a shoulder holster without a concealed weapons permit, right? If that's the case, do I get in trouble if my shirt hangs out over my waist and all of a sudden the gun is concealed?

Any gun-nuts here?

I'd also like some suggestions for decent hand guns. I'm not going to break the bank, but I'd love to waste some tax return dollars on a gun and shoulder holster. Perhaps it's the teeny-peeny syndrome, but I really like the idea all of a sudden.


me myself own a smith and wessons magnum 357 revolver. now thats a reliable gun. but dont let your girlfriend shoot it. whent to the range with her and she shot it but got freaked and dropped it. she didnt drop the shotgun and the glock 9's though
although planing on getting a glock 357 when I get back home(more than 6 bullets :D).
don't know the laws from back there cant help you on that, over here they are illegal so i left mine at home in south america.
 
I like the idea, Freak, but that gun looks like it might be the Richard Simmons model. I was thinking along the lines of something that didn't scream, "I'm gay!".

To take your line, and use it on you.
"Not that there's anything wrong with that."
 
me myself own a smith and wessons magnum 357 revolver. now thats a reliable gun. but dont let your girlfriend shoot it. whent to the range with her and she shot it but got freaked and dropped it. she didnt drop the shotgun and the glock 9's though
although planing on getting a glock 357 when I get back home(more than 6 bullets :D).
don't know the laws from back there cant help you on that, over here they are illegal so i left mine at home in south america.

I have a S&W .357 Mag as well. I got the longer barrel and it makes it MUCH more controlable. I got turned on to the S&W revolver when I went to the range with a buddy that had one and shot his better the first time I picked it up than any other gun I've shot. It just feels right in my hand and I have no trouble getting a quick sight picture. I gave up my Ruger snubby .357 Mag for it and couldn't be happier. The trigger on the Ruger was clunky as hell compared to the S&W.

The big *** revolver is no concealed carry gun, but with a holster and open carry it'd be fine. I think it might be the gun Rick has in TWD, except mine holds 7 rounds.
 
Rest easy Trout, I shoot my fathers Judge quite alot. Let me assure that the larger gun in that picture is a hand cannon. I would not even try to carry a pistol that was any larger. You pull that on someone and your sexual prefrence will not be questioned. I'd prefer black though but that is a sweet gun. Plus it is just damn fun to shoot.

The bigger the gun the deeper you have to hide it. Just saying.


Here is a mans gun:
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One day I'll own a Class 3 oozie ("I can carry around freaking machine guns for heaven's sake").

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me myself own a smith and wessons magnum 357 revolver. now thats a reliable gun. but dont let your girlfriend shoot it. whent to the range with her and she shot it but got freaked and dropped it. she didnt drop the shotgun and the glock 9's though
although planing on getting a glock 357 when I get back home(more than 6 bullets :D).
don't know the laws from back there cant help you on that, over here they are illegal so i left mine at home in south america.

When you say you want a Glock that shoots 357 you're talking about .357 SIG, right? not .357 mag? I've heard .357 SIG often has feeding problems because of it's bottleneck shape.
 
The bigger the gun the deeper you have to hide it. Just saying.


Here is a mans gun:
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One day I'll own a Class 3 oozie ("I can carry around freaking machine guns for heaven's sake").

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Speaking of hiding guns "deeper" that looks like a gay gun that Trout could use.
 
Have you considered getting an alarm system and/or a dog?

alarm system give me a break, are the most unrealiable stuff ever
dogs? really it takes months to train the dog to not eat steaks from strangers. people could just thorw a steak laced with whatever poison over your fence. would your dog resist?
 
alarm system give me a break, are the most unrealiable stuff ever
dogs? really it takes months to train the dog to not eat steaks from strangers. people could just thorw a steak laced with whatever poison over your fence. would your dog resist?

What if a meteor hits your doghouse. Then what are you going to do?

Just resonably prepare which to me would include an alarm system on a home I bought. An inside dog, a fenced yard and a firearm where I can quickly and quietly get to it. trim bushes so that windows are visible and not covered...common sense things go a long, long way
 
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