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Like, for real. I love this dude. He might just force his way into the rotation through sheer force. Instant culture changer if such a thing is actually necessary. It takes a VERY special kind of player to defy the very-sound convention that centers should be big and protect the rim or PFs need to be able to stretch the floor.

People talked about Vando being Rodman. I think Oscar is much closer.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Like, for real. I love this dude. He might just force his way into the rotation through sheer force. Instant culture changer if such a thing is actually necessary. It takes a VERY special kind of player to defy the very-sound convention that centers should be big and protect the rim or PFs need to be able to stretch the floor.

People talked about Vando being Rodman. I think Oscar is much closer.
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19 rebounds per 36. G League is 21 per 36. College 15.4 per 36.

Rodman was career 15 per 36. His college was 16.5.
 
SAMPLE SIZE IS VERY SMALL WARNING:

- Oscar has the 2nd best rebounding percentage in the league at 24.3%, the leader has only played 2.4 total minutes
- The best rebounding % in the league for someone who actually plays minutes is Andre Drummond at 20.5%
- Dennis Rodman's Career Average Rebounding % was 23.4%

- Our Team Defensive Rebounding % is 5.2% higher with Oscar on the Court vs Off the Court (77.8% vs 72.6%)
- Our Team Offensive Rebounding % is 8.3% higher with Oscar on the Court vs Off the Court (38.2% vs 29.9%)
- In comparison OKC's DREB% is 4% higher and OREB% is 3% higher with Isaiah Hartenstein on the court vs off the court
- The best defensive rebounding team in the league is the Bucks with a DREB% of 73.2%, The Jazz have a 4.6% better DREB% with Oscar on the court than the best team in the league.
- The difference between the Jazz with and without Oscar on the court for defensive rebounding (5.2%) is the same difference between the best defensive rebounding team in the league (Bucks) and the 28th defensive team in the league (Blazers)
- The best offensive rebounding team in the league is Houston with an OREB% of 36.6%. The Jazz have a 1.6% better OREB% with Oscar on the court than the best team in the league.
- The difference between the Jazz with and without Oscar on the court for offensive rebounding (8.3%) is the same difference between the best offensive rebounding team in the league (Houston) and the 21st defensive team in the league (OKC)

Yes, this is a small sample size (Oscar has only played about 120 NBA minutes), but it should also be considered that many of his NBA games have been on crazy rest schedules, playing multiple games in the same day.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
SAMPLE SIZE IS VERY SMALL WARNING:

- Oscar has the 2nd best rebounding percentage in the league at 24.3%, the leader has only played 2.4 total minutes
- The best rebounding % in the league for someone who actually plays minutes is Andre Drummond at 20.5%
- Dennis Rodman's Career Average Rebounding % was 23.4%

- Our Team Defensive Rebounding % is 5.2% higher with Oscar on the Court vs Off the Court (77.8% vs 72.6%)
- Our Team Offensive Rebounding % is 8.3% higher with Oscar on the Court vs Off the Court (38.2% vs 29.9%)
- In comparison OKC's DREB% is 4% higher and OREB% is 3% higher with Isaiah Hartenstein on the court vs off the court
- The best defensive rebounding team in the league is the Bucks with a DREB% of 73.2%, The Jazz have a 4.6% better DREB% with Oscar on the court than the best team in the league.
- The difference between the Jazz with and without Oscar on the court for defensive rebounding (5.2%) is the same difference between the best defensive rebounding team in the league (Bucks) and the 28th defensive team in the league (Blazers)
- The best offensive rebounding team in the league is Houston with an OREB% of 36.6%. The Jazz have a 1.6% better OREB% with Oscar on the court than the best team in the league.
- The difference between the Jazz with and without Oscar on the court for offensive rebounding (8.3%) is the same difference between the best offensive rebounding team in the league (Houston) and the 21st defensive team in the league (OKC)

Yes, this is a small sample size (Oscar has only played about 120 NBA minutes), but it should also be considered that many of his NBA games have been on crazy rest schedules, playing multiple games in the same day.
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The Team On/Off rebounding % numbers are particularly impressive to me, because it shows that Oscar isn't just taking away rebounds from teammates, but is generating more opportunities for the team.
 
We're 16.3 pts per 100 possessions better on offense with Oscar on the court and 4.27 pts per 100 possessions better on defense with Oscar on the court or 20.6pts per 100 possessions better in total.

Oscar might literally make our team too good to tank when he is on the court. We might not be able to play Oscar real minutes for the rest of the year.
 
It seems to me that Oscar brings an elite skill to the table. It makes you wonder why the Pacers did not consider him a prospect after last season and let him go. Guys that get offensive rebounds are as valuable statistically as guys that get steals. I'm not a basketball GM but he would appear to be a guy to keep around.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
SAMPLE SIZE IS VERY SMALL WARNING:

- Oscar has the 2nd best rebounding percentage in the league at 24.3%, the leader has only played 2.4 total minutes
- The best rebounding % in the league for someone who actually plays minutes is Andre Drummond at 20.5%
- Dennis Rodman's Career Average Rebounding % was 23.4%

- Our Team Defensive Rebounding % is 5.2% higher with Oscar on the Court vs Off the Court (77.8% vs 72.6%)
- Our Team Offensive Rebounding % is 8.3% higher with Oscar on the Court vs Off the Court (38.2% vs 29.9%)
- In comparison OKC's DREB% is 4% higher and OREB% is 3% higher with Isaiah Hartenstein on the court vs off the court
- The best defensive rebounding team in the league is the Bucks with a DREB% of 73.2%, The Jazz have a 4.6% better DREB% with Oscar on the court than the best team in the league.
- The difference between the Jazz with and without Oscar on the court for defensive rebounding (5.2%) is the same difference between the best defensive rebounding team in the league (Bucks) and the 28th defensive team in the league (Blazers)
- The best offensive rebounding team in the league is Houston with an OREB% of 36.6%. The Jazz have a 1.6% better OREB% with Oscar on the court than the best team in the league.
- The difference between the Jazz with and without Oscar on the court for offensive rebounding (8.3%) is the same difference between the best offensive rebounding team in the league (Houston) and the 21st defensive team in the league (OKC)

Yes, this is a small sample size (Oscar has only played about 120 NBA minutes), but it should also be considered that many of his NBA games have been on crazy rest schedules, playing multiple games in the same day.
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I’ve seen enough. Start the MVP chants.
 
On a more serious note, though we always criticize small sample sizes, it's important to recognize the signal that ungodly numbers can indicate. I don't mean small sample sizes are are meaningless (like Kessler going 3/3 from three in a game or something like that), but something more sizable but still a very limited number. For instance, 25 attempts from three is not enough of a sample to make a lot of conclusions about. But if someone were to shoot 20/25, while it'd be silly to think they're going to continue to shoot 80% from deep, it is certainly evidence that there is something real there, something likely real big. No, it's not 80%. But it's big.

This is the same.
 
It's too time consuming to comb through the available G-League and college vids. Does anybody have any feelings about how he operates in the short roll? That would seem to be the skill that would force him onto the floor.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Like, for real. I love this dude. He might just force his way into the rotation through sheer force. Instant culture changer if such a thing is actually necessary. It takes a VERY special kind of player to defy the very-sound convention that centers should be big and protect the rim or PFs need to be able to stretch the floor.

People talked about Vando being Rodman. I think Oscar is much closer.
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great call mate ... great comp
 
NAOS_pt2 said:
It's too time consuming to comb through the available G-League and college vids. Does anybody have any feelings about how he operates in the short roll? That would seem to be the skill that would force him onto the floor.
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At the GLeague level he is very good at it. My concern is his shooting range. But Rodman wasn't exactly an offensive wizard either.
 
He reminds me a ton of Millsap coming out of college. Millsap couldn't shoot a duck from 10 feet using a sawed off shotgun when he got to the league. Everything was rebound put back. But he developed the shot.

Oscar seems like he is the perfect lockerroom guy too. Great attitude. Always smiling. I give him a long term, low cost contract next year. Can we go to 5 years x 2 million per?
 
Oscar is 6' 7.25 w/o shoes (in the 80's that's 6' 9") with a 7' 3.5" wingspan. 253 pounds. Not bad.

How's his defense for those that have watched more than me?
 
NUMBERICA said:
Oscar is 6' 7.25 w/o shoes (in the 80's that's 6' 9") with a 7' 3.5" wingspan. 253 pounds. Not bad.

How's his defense for those that have watched more than me?
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Imo defense is mostly hustle, effort and measurables. I would guess that he can defend just based off that

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