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Penn State Pedophile Controversy

very sad situation all the way around


made worse today perhaps by reading the transcripts and having the "advantage" (not the right word at all) of those details

I really would like to know what Penn State officials may or may not have been told back in 1998, and what influence they may have used to hush things up at that time. Apparently Penn State is unique in that it is one of the few state institutions anywhere that is exempt from having to keep records of meetings and stuff. (trying to find a link, I just read this in the paper)

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Unraveling who knew what in this case could be difficult at Penn State, which was exempted in 2009 by the state from disclosing most records.

Unlike most publicly funded schools nationwide, Penn State is required only to release an annual tax form and the salaries of its directors and highest-paid employees. Information such as meeting minutes, emails and text messages are exempt from release.
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https://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204190704577026060082371298.html

The timing seems suspicious - CYA perhaps?
 
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Wow.... One nasty rumor just started circulating around. If this is true.... Wow, this makes the situation just 100x worse...

https://www.mediaite.com/online/loc...erry-sandusky-pimped-boys-out-to-rich-donors/

Mark Madden, a local sports writer for the Beaver County Times, said on a radio show this morning that he had heard that a new development was going to break and that it involved the man at the center of the scandal, Jerry Sandusky, “pimping out” young children to “rich donors” of his Second Miles Foundation for troubled kids.
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Joe Pa seems delusional to me.

Maybe it's the weight of the moment, the emotion, etc. I've never coached at a school for 46 years and had hundreds of kids and media members cheering my name on my front porch. But his comments last night sounded as if he were high... Or drunk... Or just delusional.

Then he did the, "Who are we? Penn St!" Chant?

Seriously dude?

Do you not realize what the hell is going on around you?

You gives a F about football or Penn St right now?

People all around you are losing their careers and will shortly be sent to face legal prosecution and possible prison time. Young boys, were raped because of your lack of fulfilling your moral obligation. Your legacy as not only a football coach, but as a human being, is being shredded as we speak. There is a possible nasty *** rumor going on of these young people being used as commodities to rich donors. This all happened under your watch Joe! Where were you???

Do you offer any remorse? Do you show any real concern? Do you show that you understand what is going on around you? People are going to prison. Hell, YOU should be going to prison. As should your assist. coach who is somehow still on your coaching staff who witnessed the whole locker room incident.

Does he know what's going on?

Nope, just another, "Oh man, you guys are great! And by guys I mean girls too! Study hard. Tomorrow is another day. Who are we? Penn St! Oh and uhh, pray a lil for those victims."

Seriously?!
 
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One thing that's not been mentioned, to my knowledge, is the timing of all this. It just happened to come out the week after JoePa broke Eddie Robinson's all-time wins record. I find that to be more than just a coincidence.
 
The Thriller said:
Joe Pa seems delusional to me.

Maybe it's the weight of the moment, the emotion, etc. I've never coached at a school for 46 years and had hundreds of kids and media members cheering my name on my front porch. But his comments last night sounded as if he were high... Or drunk... Or just delusional.

Then he did the, "Who are we? Penn St!" Chant?

Seriously dude?

Do you not realize what the hell is going on around you?

You gives a F about football or Penn St right now?

People all around you are losing their careers and will shortly be sent to face legal prosecution and possible prison time. Young boys, were raped because of your lack of fulfilling your moral obligation. Your legacy as not only a football coach, but as a human being, is being shredded as we speak. There is a possible nasty *** rumor going on of these young people being used as commodities to rich donors. This all happened under your watch Joe! Where were you???

Do you offer any remorse? Do you show any real concern? Do you show that you understand what is going on around you? People are going to prison. Hell, YOU should be going to prison. As should your assist. coach who is somehow still on your coaching staff who witnessed the whole locker room incident.

Does he know what's going on?

Nope, just another, "Oh man, you guys are great! And by guys I mean girls too! Study hard. Tomorrow is another day. Who are we? Penn St! Oh and uhh, pray a lil for those victims."

Seriously?!
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I honestly only think he cares because it's affecting the football program.
 
No one understands this because no one here went to Penn State or lived in State College. JoePa is Penn State.. from academics to sports to the city. I am struggling with this as I have always looked at JoePa as the coach that anyone would have loved to play for. He should have went to the police but didn't.. easy and said.. but how in the HELL is it ok to keep the Grad Assistant on Staff when he saw it happening as a 22 year old and just left.. didnt call the police but called his dad. Then waited until the next do to go to JoePa? How is that any more acceptable vs. JoePa passing it up the chain of command. I am not trying to justify the firing of JoePa with this.

I guess I just feel bad for JoePa and feel bad of course for the kids that were troubled. Lose lose situation however you look at it
 
It blows me away that students would riot to protest his being fired. That is kinda like a riot in favor of child molestation. Very strange.
 
Cope said:
No one understands this because no one here went to Penn State or lived in State College. JoePa is Penn State.. from academics to sports to the city. I am struggling with this as I have always looked at JoePa as the coach that anyone would have loved to play for. He should have went to the police but didn't.. easy and said.. but how in the HELL is it ok to keep the Grad Assistant on Staff when he saw it happening as a 22 year old and just left.. didnt call the police but called his dad. Then waited until the next do to go to JoePa? How is that any more acceptable vs. JoePa passing it up the chain of command. I am not trying to justify the firing of JoePa with this.

I guess I just feel bad for JoePa and feel bad of course for the kids that were troubled. Lose lose situation however you look at it
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I am struggling to understand how anybody can feel bad for Joe Paterno! Serously he's a football coach who deserved to be fired. This whole mess is sickening and the only people I feel any sympathy for is the kid victims. Any respect Joe Pa earned over the years is gone. He covered the *** of his school and himself over doing the right thing for kids who had little chance to do something for themselves. I will hold him in disdain from here on out and he deserves no better than that.
 
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Reverence should be held for victims and the people that try to aid the victims. Nowhere in this equation does football even ****ing register.

However, am I shocked that Pennsyltucky is acting like Pennsyltucky? Not really.
 
Cope said:
No one understands this because no one here went to Penn State or lived in State College. JoePa is Penn State.. from academics to sports to the city. I am struggling with this as I have always looked at JoePa as the coach that anyone would have loved to play for. He should have went to the police but didn't.. easy and said.. but how in the HELL is it ok to keep the Grad Assistant on Staff when he saw it happening as a 22 year old and just left.. didnt call the police but called his dad. Then waited until the next do to go to JoePa? How is that any more acceptable vs. JoePa passing it up the chain of command. I am not trying to justify the firing of JoePa with this.

I guess I just feel bad for JoePa and feel bad of course for the kids that were troubled. Lose lose situation however you look at it
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I do understand it. Don't tell me I don't. I simply can differentiate between right and wrong and make decisions like an adult makes. That is, unless it comes to porn. Then all bets are off.
 
I'm pretty sure my dad wrote JoePa a letter about 40 years ago and Paterno wrote him a semi-lengthy one back. Gotta ask him.
 
To think of all the mass shootings that occur and that it didn't occur last night in College Station is a bit of a letdown.
 
gregbroncs said:
I am struggling to understand how anybody can feel bad for Joe Paterno! Serously he's a football coach who deserved to be fired. This whole mess is sickening and the only people I feel any sympathy for is the kid victims. Any respect Joe Pa earned over the years is gone. He covered the *** of his school and himself over doing the right thing for kids who had little chance to do something for themselves. I will hold him in distain from here on out and he deserves no better than that.
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Really???? Did he cover the *** of the school and himself or is that what is just being said right now.... The problem I have is he has been the #1 target of all this yet I still struggle to understand how the GA that witnessed it happening, didn't call police, and apparently went to JoePa hasn't gotten any blame. I haven't read up on it but what if he went to him on a Saturday morning, gameday, and JoePa had other things on his mind so just passed it up figuring it would get addressed immediately. Again, not trying to make an excuse as he should have immediately called the police. All I wanted to point out is no one understands what JoePa represents in that community. He is the Pope, he is the President, he is everything Penn State and State College. I haven't heard one person say they don't agree that he shouldn't have called immediately if it indeed went down from what people are saying BUT to not feel bad for the guy? I guess that is just preference as I do feel bad for him and his family . I feel bad for the kids that were hurt as well.. its not a competition. I feel frustration over the guy that did it and the GA that didn't immediately do something the most though.. that is my point. The focus is now not on either of them but just JoePa
 
Cope said:
Really???? Did he cover the *** of the school and himself or is that what is just being said right now.... The problem I have is he has been the #1 target of all this yet I still struggle to understand how the GA that witnessed it happening, didn't call police, and apparently went to JoePa hasn't gotten any blame. I haven't read up on it but what if he went to him on a Saturday morning, gameday, and JoePa had other things on his mind so just passed it up figuring it would get addressed immediately. Again, not trying to make an excuse as he should have immediately called the police. All I wanted to point out is no one understands what JoePa represents in that community. He is the Pope, he is the President, he is everything Penn State and State College. I haven't heard one person say they don't agree that he shouldn't have called immediately if it indeed went down from what people are saying BUT to not feel bad for the guy? I guess that is just preference as I do feel bad for him and his family . I feel bad for the kids that were hurt as well.. its not a competition. I feel frustration over the guy that did it and the GA that didn't immediately do something the most though.. that is my point. The focus is now not on either of them but just JoePa
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He has been made the #1 target for a few reasons.

1. Biggest name of the bunch.
2. He is the one that people seem to be defending. (which is disgusting to me)
3. His fans are the ones making a big stink over him being fired.

Others have been fired over this and it's likely other will be. But none of them are being defended and rioted for because of some sick sense of loyalty being shown by his fans.

And no I feel no sympathy at all for him.

And yes he did cover his and his schools ***. He did the absolute minimum the law would require of him in the reporting of this crime. He did not call the police he did not make sure the people he reports to called the police and he did not confront the guy being accused. He did not do what he should have done as a human.
 
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gregbroncs said:
I am struggling to understand how anybody can feel bad for Joe Paterno! Serously he's a football coach who deserved to be fired. This whole mess is sickening and the only people I feel any sympathy for is the kid victims. Any respect Joe Pa earned over the years is gone. He covered the *** of his school and himself over doing the right thing for kids who had little chance to do something for themselves. I will hold him in *distain from here on out and he deserves no better than that.
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*Disdain
 
"The bigger they are, the harder they fall." That's all this is, he's getting so much attention because he's Joe Paterno. If I were one of those young men who were abused and knew that Paterno knew about this stuff, I would be disgusted at what those students did last night to support him. Why McQuery still has a job is beyond confusing.

Bradley said it best in the presser today, "We all have a responsibility to kids." That's what it all comes down to. Not one person that was involved took any responsibility for what happened. Sickening that other things like football took precedence over the livelihood of that young boy and others that were later abused.
 
The GA probably worried about what it could do to his career. He didn't do the right thing, but he probably acted out of a sense of self preservation.

Joe Pa, on the other hand, had nothing to fear by blowing the whistle. He would have never been fired for doing the right thing. Possibly the only figure in the whole mess that was untouchable.

That's the reason he is the big story. Sandusky will reap his reward (hopefully over and over again in prison), then burn in hell. Paterno needs to be held responsible for his neglect.
 
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To think of all the mass shootings that occur and that it didn't occur last night in College Station is a bit of a letdown.
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Try again. College Station is the college town of Texas A & M's Aggies. State College is the home of the Nittany Lions.
 
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