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He probably won't get the roll game that Carlos had because he lacks that left hand skill, but he more than makes up for it with his ability to score everywhere else.
 
I still can't figure out why this game was appearing Blacked Out to me on League Pass it is the same even when I connect using an LA or DC VPN server. :(
 
Yeah, mediocre wings has been the Jazz's problem, like for what, a decade?

Regarding the frontcourt, we'll have to see how a 6-8 Millsap and 6-10 Jefferson fare on a nightly basis. Thats an even smaller frontline than the one we had last season. It can wear them out quickly banging against bigger guys night in and night out.
Also, Millsap has'nt made much noise yet in the preseason. He is looking more like the role player that he was. These are just mild concerns, but still.

The problem with the undersized front line is that it has to collapse on defense whenever someone drives, which opens up outside shots and 2nd-chance points. Plus they'll rack up too many fouls.
 
Easy 20+ by Big Al. We can probably expect that every night. He had some great passes as well. Notice how much easier it is for him to score in the post than it was for Boozer?

Let's see how he does against Pow and Odumb before we start praising Big Al's post-game.
 
I still can't figure out why this game was appearing Blacked Out to me on League Pass it is the same even when I connect using an LA or DC VPN server. :(

That's what I was trying to warn people about in the league pass thread. We live in N. Idaho, out of the black out zone (according to Dish network, anyway), and we were blacked out on League Pass the past two years anyway. All my attempts to contact NBALP have come to nothing. Nobody seems to know anything about it. It's very frustrating.
 
That's what I was trying to warn people about in the league pass thread. We live in N. Idaho, out of the black out zone (according to Dish network, anyway), and we were blacked out on League Pass the past two years anyway. All my attempts to contact NBALP have come to nothing. Nobody seems to know anything about it. It's very frustrating.

I'm pretty sure all league pass games are blacked out when they are being played on another station like FSN, but I'm not for sure. I remember something like this happening to me when I had league pass a few years ago.
 
Yeah, mediocre wings has been the Jazz's problem, like for what, a decade?

Regarding the frontcourt, we'll have to see how a 6-8 Millsap and 6-10 Jefferson fare on a nightly basis. Thats an even smaller frontline than the one we had last season. It can wear them out quickly banging against bigger guys night in and night out.
Also, Millsap has'nt made much noise yet in the preseason. He is looking more like the role player that he was. These are just mild concerns, but still.

You've analyzed my post in at least one way that I'd distance myself from. I don't think that we have a mediocre wing problem. I actually felt pretty confident when each high-minute player had the ball in his hands. Ball-handling isn't going to be a problem, and there should be a lot of open looks with a monster finally manning the post. A 232lb Miles is going to give us the best year of his career. AK looks great. Raja was a great addition. And I think that Hayward is going to be a fine player. It's more a matter of feeding the hot hand when these players are on the floor together and getting to the foul line when shots aren't immediately falling. CJ has the strength to make that a growing facet of his game and Hayward is already crafty enough to make that a staple. Anything Evans brings, which could be plenty, is just gravy.

I'm biased here, but who has a better wing rotation in the NW division? Nobody.
 
He still doesnt have the roll game Boozer had. If he can develop a roll game close to Boozer's that would be great.

He will get there once he is used to the system. Now I think he is just trying to learn it so he's making the safe moves. When he knows the offense inside out, he will roll to the basket and dunk over Robin Lopez again.
 
You've analyzed my post in at least one way that I'd distance myself from. I don't think that we have a mediocre wing problem. I actually felt pretty confident when each high-minute player had the ball in his hands. Ball-handling isn't going to be a problem, and there should be a lot of open looks with a monster finally manning the post. A 232lb Miles is going to give us the best year of his career. AK looks great. Raja was a great addition. And I think that Hayward is going to be a fine player. It's more a matter of feeding the hot hand when these players are on the floor together and getting to the foul line when shots aren't immediately falling. CJ has the strength to make that a growing facet of his game and Hayward is already crafty enough to make that a staple. Anything Evans brings, which could be plenty, is just gravy.

I'm biased here, but who has a better wing rotation in the NW division? Nobody.

It is not about having 5 or 6 players in rotation who can do a bunch of different things. It is about having that one stud wing who can be all around and who you can count on 30+ mins night in and night out. Jazz have always had wings only by committee for the last 6-7 years. I am still concerned with consistent outside shooting, playmaking and defense. Bell is not bad in the 1st and 3rd departments, Miles OCCASIONALLY decent with all three, AK above-average in the second and third and just average in the first. That is my problem.One of these three guys have to step up and be a stud third option. They can't just be contented role players doing piecemeal work if we need to advance beyond the second round. You need to have one wing who can do it all, or almost-all on a nightly basis to contend. Over the years championship teams , in addition to a good big man inside, also had a good wing to pair with, be it Kobe or Wade or Pierce or Ginobli. We dont have that. And especially since ours is a PG-driven system, having a playmaking wing assumes even more importance to take pressure off of Deron. Lakers will continue to put Artest or Kobe on Deron. They are'nt going to be afraid of Bell or AK.
 
Hayward's demeanor = Kosta Koufos last year

I wish it was only that bad last night.

At least Koufous was active on both ends of the court - yeah, he'd look like a chicken without a head running around a lot but you can never say he gave up on anything.

On offense, Hayward clearly gave up on some plays last night. He seemed to spend a lot of time on the opposite side of the court from where all the action was taking place. Sure, sometimes the play calls for that; but you can tell by his body language he was like "they're not going to pass it to me so I'll just stand here". Watch Kyle Korver on the court for 5 minutes. No matter what the play or where he is on the court, he is constantly trying to get open or create a passing angle for his teammates.

I'm not making a value judgement yet, the kid is obviously suffering from a bit of culture shock; but you can't play that way at this level.
 
Hayward's just about the only one last night that I saw that looked almost completely confused about what he was doing. He wouldn't go up hard to the basket, then when he did it completely bricked off the board.
 
I've been on board with Hayward since he got here, but the comparison to Doufus is too apt in last night's game. I think he'll do better, obviously (can't do much worse), but his learning curve might be higher than I originally thought. He was "guarding" Hedo last night, who can obviously light it up, but he'll face much worse pretty soon.

And I thought Miles looked pretty good. I don't think we're the best in the NW on the wings, but I'd say we're improved over last year at least. And if Fes keeps a little of that fire in the belly we're majorly improved at the 5 with him and Big Al. I'm not sold on Watson yet, but I'm guessing the "vet" vitamins should kick in soon.
 
Harpring ronbooning something about "The City of Utah" was the highlight of the night.
 
When did Hayward guard Hedo at any point last night?

Exactly.

thats the point where was he when hedo was dropping those 3 pt long range bombers inhis face? Probly too busy counting money he doenst even deserve for the 9th pickand being a bust. hello gordon this is the nba and the last time i checked the 3 pointers ar worth the most out of any of the shots unless they have 4 pointers now! hmmm suprised they did'nt teach you that at butler. oh well all you care about is u got your honda acord so now ur just laughing at the bank.
 
Maybe I'm mistaken, but at least two of those 3s Hedo sank early in the game were off of Hayward's rotation (which he obviously didn't make). I couldn't tell b/c of the camera work, but I assumed he was the one Deron was getting on after the second shot dropped.

And I caught the Karl Malone quote from Harp last night too. How long do you have to live in the City of Utah before you start calling it the State of Salt Lake?
 
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