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Pick a Side: Rudy or Don

Which Player Do You Side With?

  • Rudy

  • Donovan

  • Sick of Both

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LoPo said:
I don't like talking trades right when we are about to go to the playoffs, but for ***** and giggles if Toronto wants him that badly

Gobert and Gay
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Two of...
Siakim, Gary Trent Jr, and OG Anonoby





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Based on some of the offers being thrown out I think I may have been slightly lower on Rudy’s value. I doubt you’d get both Siakham and OG… you might just get Siakham and some of the loose parts like Precious. If we add a little maybe you get Trent and Siakham… but one thing I know… Massai gonna win the trade… you won’t get an overpay from him.

It’s all going to depend on our run and how others end their season… so probably wise to shut the trade machine down unless it’s just for teh lolz.
 
Geez how Jazz nation turns on their own and then cry when players leave and show "no loyalty". I want them both to stay and the Jazz find/trade for the third wheel using some of our other assets.
 
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cowhide said:
Geez how Jazz nations turn on their own and then cry when players leave and show "no loyalty". I want them both to stay and the Jazz find/trade for the third wheel using some of our other assets.
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I mean that is door number one and has been my stance from the get go… but if players don’t want to stay then making moves to appease them is not wise. Also turning our spare parts into something better is also a bit tough to do given our lack of assets and cap situation.

The reports are consistent and constant. Rudy and Don are likely not going to want to stay together a whole lot longer… Donovan has long term plans that don’t include Utah… maybe all the reports are incorrect but we all collectively lol’d the reports of Gordo wanting to go to Boston 12 months before it happened.

If they both want to stay then let’s keep em.
 
LoPo said:
I don't like talking trades right when we are about to go to the playoffs, but for ***** and giggles if Toronto wants him that badly

Gobert and Gay
for

Two of...
Siakim, Gary Trent Jr, and OG Anonoby





Sent from my SM-A516U using JazzFanz mobile app
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Toronto will just laugh, Masai is not dumb, he is a champion and has built teams that have been way more competitive than us
 
Saw some GSW trades for Rudy and it actually makes a lot of sense. They never occurred to me as a trade partner.

Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody are nice pieces.
 
Hekate said:
Saw some GSW trades for Rudy and it actually makes a lot of sense. They never occurred to me as a trade partner.

Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody are nice pieces.
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I think you could flip Wiggins for value too… if you wanted.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think you could flip Wiggins for value too… if you wanted.
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Wiggins would most probably need to be included in the trade for salary reasons.

Wiseman, Kuminga, Wiggins and 2 firsts for Rudy is fair.

Wiggins is an expiring so you can send him away for longer salary and some minor picks or get some value by trading him at deadline to a team like Kangz.
 
cowhide said:
Geez how Jazz nation turns on their own and then cry when players leave and show "no loyalty". I want them both to stay and the Jazz find/trade for the third wheel using some of our other assets.
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Ok but what assets
 
Hekate said:
Saw some GSW trades for Rudy and it actually makes a lot of sense. They never occurred to me as a trade partner.

Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody are nice pieces.
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I hate the idea of trading Rudy to the Warriors because I know how good it would make them, if we do trade him, I would much rather trade him to an eastern conference team. You're absolutely right though, it would actually make a lot of sense because they do have some very nice young pieces.
 
Jingled said:
I hate the idea of trading Rudy to the Warriors because I know how good it would make them, if we do trade him, I would much rather trade him to an eastern conference team. You're absolutely right though, it would actually make a lot of sense because they do have some very nice young pieces.
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Probably gifting them a 2nd dynasty, lol.
 
Jingled said:
I hate the idea of trading Rudy to the Warriors because I know how good it would make them, if we do trade him, I would much rather trade him to an eastern conference team. You're absolutely right though, it would actually make a lot of sense because they do have some very nice young pieces.
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If it gets to that point... I think you leverage the GS offer against Atlanta (cuz lets be honest the Jazz don't have the stones to trade Donovan and Donovan ain't gonna ask out in a direct way).

I originally thought you could likely only get Capela, Collins, and their pick this year, but that GS offer could lead them to throw in Huerter too... maybe you dump Gay on them as well.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If it gets to that point... I think you leverage the GS offer against Atlanta (cuz lets be honest the Jazz don't have the stones to trade Donovan and Donovan ain't gonna ask out in a direct way).

I originally thought you could likely only get Capela, Collins, and their pick this year, but that GS offer could lead them to throw in Huerter too... maybe you dump Gay on them as well.
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I wanted Huerter so bad in the draft four years ago. I'm definitely still against trading Rudy, but I have to admit, the packages from both Atlanta and GS could be intriguing.
 
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NUMBERICA said:
Ok but what assets
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Conley, Bogey, JC, O'neal, picks they collectively have value. Maybe a team liked J Butler in the draft, The GS trade, none of those players have proven themselves and it would be total rebuild which DM wants no part of. Oh I didn't see Wiggins. Not a big fan but he is ok. People are basing their opinions on one or two articles even when DM and Gobert have denied them. Teammates do not have to be buddies to win championships. If we trade away Gobert we need some young proven players and not guys with potential.
 
cowhide said:
Conley, Bogey, JC, O'neal, picks they collectively have value. Maybe a team liked J Butler in the draft, The GS trade, none of those players have proven themselves and it would be total rebuild which DM wants no part of. Oh I didn't see Wiggins. Not a big fan but he is ok. People are basing their opinions on one or two articles even when DM and Gobert have denied them. Teammates do not have to be buddies to win championships. If we trade away Gobert we need some young proven players and not guys with potential.
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A few? And what, you expect someone with as meticulously crafted a public image as Donovan’s to say, “yeah, I dislike Rudy, our fan base, and the market here so I’m basically biding my time. I for sure have a foot out the door while I’m dangling the keys to the franchise above everybody’s heads.”?

It’s been a growing chorus. Furthermore, blowing it up is exactly what most people would prefer if one got traded.

Lastly, what does:
-a 36-year old PG that’s one of the shortest in the league and been showing serious signs of wear for years,
-a 33 year-old that’s good but on an expiring contract,
-an atrociously inefficient volume scorer,
-a 6’ 6” (in shoes) defensive “stopper” except against guards or screens,
-few (to no) tradable picks that don’t cripple you in the inevitable rebuild

get you that makes you better today and doesn’t destroy the future? You could probably flip some of those players for (late) 1sts from a desperate team (or at least multiple 2nds), but a desperate team isn’t sacrificing better players than what they’re getting back.
 
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cowhide said:
Conley, Bogey, JC, O'neal, picks they collectively have value. Maybe a team liked J Butler in the draft, The GS trade, none of those players have proven themselves and it would be total rebuild which DM wants no part of. Oh I didn't see Wiggins. Not a big fan but he is ok. People are basing their opinions on one or two articles even when DM and Gobert have denied them. Teammates do not have to be buddies to win championships. If we trade away Gobert we need some young proven players and not guys with potential.
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We don’t have a lot of picks… those guys are high level prospects who have done a lot more to establish value.

It’s tough to spin straw into gold.
 
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