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moevillini said:
So how do all of you anti "murder" folks feel about in vitro fertilization? What about all those embryos that get frozen and eventually disposed of?

Are you consistent in your morals? Or is it only murder in one case but not the other?
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This is a clown question, Moe. Step your game up. We're not even in the same ball park.

Lol. Anti "murder."
 
ElRoach0 said:
That's fine. Because the government's hands were bound to help a woman who didn't want a pregnancy, she's now enslaved to living a lifestyle not of her choosing for 9 months. Which is, in effect, causing the government to pay for a heinous act of slavery, kidnapping, and battery.

And you still aren't respecting that there's not enough evidence to even call it murder.
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I didn't wanna get drunk, but I drank alcohol and it just happened.

I didn't wanna get high, but I smoked weed and it just happened.

These are all preventable things. Sure she probably didn't wanna get pregnant, but don't act like she didn't willingly involve herself in an act that makes pregnancy possible! So now she wants to punish somebody, somebody's body, because it's her body and she gets to choose what to do with it. Well she did choose. She had sex knowing she could get pregnant, but now it's not her fault? And what gives her the right to harm somebody because it's her body? This whole issue comes down to whether somebody is wanted or not. That's how we're choosing who lives...whether they're wanted or not. And that's sad. It's sad people don't want to be responsible for their actions. It's sad this is an option. And it's sad that people on both sides are shamed, put down, and vilified. It's sad that there are roughly 400k babies killed a year, and adoptions cost $30k. The whole industry is sad.
 
moevillini said:
So how do all of you anti "murder" folks feel about in vitro fertilization? What about all those embryos that get frozen and eventually disposed of?

Are you consistent in your morals? Or is it only murder in one case but not the other?
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Any reasonable pro-life thinker would be against IVF. If life begins at conception, then essentially creating 20 lives while only choosing one to prevail is still technically the killing of a new species (or several of them in this instance).
 
If adoptions cost less, then wombs might become farms. You can preach about this issue from the standpoint of morals, but the change you seek will fall back hard on the economic realities of our times.
 
dalamon said:
Any reasonable pro-life thinker would be against IVF. If life begins at conception, then essentially creating 20 lives while only choosing one to prevail is still technically the killing of a new species (or several of them in this instance).
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I would have to agree with this.

Kind of a neat story, but a couple from our community had to go through this to have kids, and they only wanted a couple. Anyways, I think she ended up with 6 that were fertilized, 3 sets of twins. So they were conflicted because that was more than they wanted, and twins! Twins are difficult. Anyways, they ended up using all of them over the course of a few years because they felt it would be murder not to. Unfortunately, it seems that most don't feel this way.
 
NAOS said:
If adoptions cost less, then wombs might become farms. You can preach about this issue from the standpoint of morals, but the change you seek will fall back hard on the economic realities of our times.
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And I agree. It's unfortunately not a perfect solution. We're not going to have one because as people, not a one of us is perfect. I feel that it would be an improvement, but you're absolutely correct in saying there could/would be corruption, especially for money.
 
dalamon said:
Any reasonable pro-life thinker would be against IVF. If life begins at conception, then essentially creating 20 lives while only choosing one to prevail is still technically the killing of a new species (or several of them in this instance).
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Not necesarrily. I think it all depends on when each person thinks "life" begins. I start really having a problem when the unborn child has a viable chance outside the womb of making it.
 
Howard said:
I didn't wanna get drunk, but I drank alcohol and it just happened.

I didn't wanna get high, but I smoked weed and it just happened.

These are all preventable things. Sure she probably didn't wanna get pregnant, but don't act like she didn't willingly involve herself in an act that makes pregnancy possible! So now she wants to punish somebody, somebody's body, because it's her body and she gets to choose what to do with it. Well she did choose. She had sex knowing she could get pregnant, but now it's not her fault? And what gives her the right to harm somebody because it's her body? This whole issue comes down to whether somebody is wanted or not. That's how we're choosing who lives...whether they're wanted or not. And that's sad. It's sad people don't want to be responsible for their actions. It's sad this is an option. And it's sad that people on both sides are shamed, put down, and vilified. It's sad that there are roughly 400k babies killed a year, and adoptions cost $30k. The whole industry is sad.
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I thought this was a dutchjazzer post at first glance
 
Howard said:
I didn't wanna get drunk, but I drank alcohol and it just happened.

I didn't wanna get high, but I smoked weed and it just happened.

These are all preventable things. Sure she probably didn't wanna get pregnant, but don't act like she didn't willingly involve herself in an act that makes pregnancy possible! So now she wants to punish somebody, somebody's body, because it's her body and she gets to choose what to do with it. Well she did choose. She had sex knowing she could get pregnant, but now it's not her fault? And what gives her the right to harm somebody because it's her body? This whole issue comes down to whether somebody is wanted or not. That's how we're choosing who lives...whether they're wanted or not. And that's sad. It's sad people don't want to be responsible for their actions. It's sad this is an option. And it's sad that people on both sides are shamed, put down, and vilified. It's sad that there are roughly 400k babies killed a year, and adoptions cost $30k. The whole industry is sad.
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if you get drunk and get a diu and kill someone you cannot escape the consequences maybe i you hire Johny cockran.
if you get high and commit a crime you will also get convicted.

those government holds u responsible for those actions.

but having sex and getting pregnant you can escape those consequences.
 
dalamon said:
Any reasonable pro-life thinker would be against IVF. If life begins at conception, then essentially creating 20 lives while only choosing one to prevail is still technically the killing of a new species (or several of them in this instance).
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ooh really?
if you really wanna commit and study, dont know about other religions but just go to any rabi. let him give you the ethics of abortion in IV without bringing god into the discussion.
i have had those talks with rabi's too bad my english language skills are subpar to kinda repeat it so delicately in terms of ethic
 
Beer said:
A dead person, especially a dead baby, doesn't own anything. I'm not all for abortion, but whenever I see some **** parent or a kid living a horrible life because they were born into it I wish the parent would have aborted as soon as they knew they were pregnant. While the "baby" was still a nothing.

If dutch wants to go for analogies, it would be more like "I'm going to throw away this food instead of giving it to a hungry person." Its going in the ground, might as well get some good out of an otherwise ****ty situation.
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While personally I'd choose to view it differently, and do say so, I'm not sure I really want to be "God" in this debate. Some claim He has spoken on the issue, but I wouldn't want to live in a world where reasonably thinking gets set aside entirely on the claims, perhaps supported historically in line with substantial traditions, that might need some questions asked. I throw the opinions of our age in the same dumpster we throw our babies in. But I'm not the one to tell you what to do or think.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW93mNJVqkI

when we threat abortion just like its just another day in the office you get these kinda MONSTERS! this is only the beginning of the decline of society!
despicable human beings who do not deserve your tax dollars.

only tax dollars they deserve is for there care in prison or lethal injection.

you know what other people treated human live like this!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ****IN NAZI SCUM!
 
theyoungturks keep on digging :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDlMRgPw8Ac

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hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha
 
watching liberal scum defend planed parenthood's selling of human organs is familiar to those who know history. because thats how the nazi party rationalized Hitlers atrocities
 
DutchJazzer said:
watching liberal scum defend planed parenthood's selling of human organs is familiar to those who know history. because thats how the nazi party rationalized Hitlers atrocities
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Well ya because planned parenthood is ran by descendents of Hitler so it makes sense
 
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