Planned Parenthood Selling Baby Organs

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A board where everyone thought and felt the same would be boring. So would a society.

 

[DutchJazzer]

WHO HAS ABORTIONS?

-In 2011, unmarried women accounted for 85.5% of all abortions (CDC).
-Women living with a partner to whom they are not married account for 25% of abortions but only about 10% of women in the population (NAF).
-In 2011, women who had not aborted in the past accounted for 53.7% of all abortions; women with one or two prior abortions accounted for 37.1%, and women with three or more prior abortions accounted for 9.3% (CDC).
-Among women who obtained abortions in 2011, 39.9% had no prior live births; 46.1% had one or two prior live births, and 13.9% had three or more prior live births (CDC).
-Women between the ages of 20-24 obtained 32.9% of all abortions in 2011; women between 25-29 obtained 24.9% (CDC).
-Women in their 20's have the highest abortion rates. In 2011, women aged 20-24 had 25.9 abortions for every one thousand 20-24 year-old women. Women aged 25-29 had 19.4 abortions for every one thousand 25-29 year-old women (CDC).
-51% of U.S. women obtaining abortions are younger than 25; women aged 20-24 obtain 33% of all U.S. abortions, and teenagers obtain 18% (AGI).
- In 2011, adolescents under 15 years obtained .04% of all abortions, but had the highest abortion ratio, 817 abortions for every 1,000 live births (CDC).
-Black women were 3.7 times more likely to have an abortion in 2011 than non-Hispanic white women (CDC).
-the abortion rate of non-metropolitan women is about half that of women who live in metropolitan counties (NAF).
-The abortion rate of women with Medicaid coverage is three times as high as that of other women (NAF).
-37% of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 28% identify themselves as Catholic (AGI).
-At current rates, nearly one-third of American women will have an abortion (AGI).

WHY DO ABORTIONS OCCUR?

-On average, women give at least 3 reasons for choosing abortion: 3/4 say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about 3/4 say they cannot afford a child; and 1/2 say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner (AGI).
-Only 12% of women included a physical problem with their health among reasons for having an abortion (NAF).
-One per cent (of aborting women) reported that they were the survivors of rape (NAF).

thats how careless we have become as a society

 

[Jamezz]

A board where everyone thought and felt the same would be boring. So would a society.

I agree, I thought better of the moderator.

 

[DutchJazzer]

I rarely say this but in my opinion you are a detriment to this board and it would be better off without you.

Ignored as you are no longer worth reading.

talking abuot me or howard?

 

[Stoked]

I agree, I thought better of the moderator.

Not all opinions are worthy of respect. I simply don't respect comparing abortion supporters to Hitler.

I thought better of you.

 

[DutchJazzer]

I rarely say this but in my opinion you are a detriment to this board and it would be better off without you.

Ignored as you are no longer worth reading.

talking about me or howard?

 

[Harambe]

I don't know how to tell you what you should do. I know how I want to decide my own personal issues.

And I'm fine with that. But when what you decide is forced on others is another scenario. Hence why we have to rely on a different body, the law.

 

[Ron Mexico]

So according to the statistics provided the majority of women having abortions the men involved have left them. Should they be punished for this as well? They have a choice to leave and not have a baby. Monetarily they might be burdened in some cases but how about in other ways?

 

[RandyForRubio]

Really? Using Hitler? Give me a damn break. Neither one of those people are even in the same universe as Hitler.

What an absolutely idiotic thing to even say. Offensive and disgusting.

So let's say I believe abortion is murder...and you still don't see it? Maybe I'll share a few Margaret Sanger quotes for you.

The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.

Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.

“We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. And the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”

Before eugenists and others who are laboring for racial betterment can succeed, they must first clear the way for Birth Control. Like the advocates of Birth Control, the eugenists, for instance, are seeking to assist the race toward the elimination of the unfit. Both are seeking a single end but they lay emphasis upon different methods.”

Let's also not forget to mention that after making a speach at a KKK rally, she was invited back several times. Now let's look at where the majority of these clinics are located, remember her statements on race and then ask ourselves if that's just a coincidence or not.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Again I am not. I am not forcing you to have an abortion or anyone, giving a choice who dont view it as murder or anything close to that.

wtf does it have to do with anything?

nobody is forcing you to murder and rob. so is murder and robbing simply okay?

 

[DutchJazzer]

So according to the statistics provided the majority of women having abortions the men involved have left them. Should they be punished for this as well? They have a choice to leave and not have a baby. Monetarily they might be burdened in some cases but how about in other ways?

you lack morals. and belong to scum of the earth.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Actually, deranged and psychotic people typically do feel they're making the world a better place. Take Hitler for example. You could also include the founder of Planned Parenthood in that. You know, the incredibly racist woman who thought it was morally right to kill babies who were disformed, mentally handicapped or even born from sickly parents. She was a real gem of a woman.

Thanks for invoking Godwin's Law, seems you have ended this discussion, hats off.

For a second I thought you wanted to have a discussion for reals, my bad. Rant away with crazy hitler comparisons, glad laws dont agree with you and never will. I guess lots or most of the world are deranged and psychotic since most disagree with you and the trending that way. You should probably find a cave or something to hide from all the deranged and psychotic people.

 

[Ron Mexico]

you lack morals. and are scum of the earth.

Okay

Makes me pretty happy that you disapprove of my morals. I must be doing something right.

 

[Ron Mexico]

wtf does it have to do with anything?

nobody is forcing you to murder and rob. so is murder and robbing simply okay?

First of all its not murder by any law. Second of all I am I am responding to you saying you are morally opposed to me making a choice to have an abortion. I am not making that choice I am allowing others to make that choice and not forcing you to. You are forcing someone to not have an abortion except in the cases you deem okay but not in other cases. Although rereading your sentence it made no sense so I guess disregard my response to that sentence.

If abortion is murder (which it is not) than there should be 0 cases in which its okay right?

 

[DutchJazzer]

First of all its not murder by any law. Second of all I am I am responding to you saying you are morally opposed to me making a choice to have an abortion. I am not making that choice I am allowing others to make that choice and not forcing you to. You are forcing someone to not have an abortion except in the cases you deem okay but not in other cases. Although rereading your sentence it made no sense so I guess disregard my response to that sentence.

If abortion is murder (which it is not) than there should be 0 cases in which its okay right?

so thats how you base your things.
something is good or bad based on if its a law or not?

good to know. end of discussion then!

 

[Ron Mexico]

So let's say I believe abortion is murder...and you still don't see it? Maybe I'll share a few Margaret Sanger quotes for you.

Let's also not forget to mention that after making a speach at a KKK rally, she was invited back several times. Now let's look at where the majority of these clinics are located, remember her statements on race and then ask ourselves if that's just a coincidence or not.

You are kind of stuck on this one person who has nothing to do with what Planned Parenthood is doing today. That is like quoting all of the terrible things Christian leaders in the past have said and saying that Christians are terrible people because of it when that has nothing to do with Christians today and their beliefs.

These are not the reasons people are having abortions or how anyone involved feels about it. She had terrible ideas and was a racist. That is a fact. A lot of her ideas were widely accepted in scholarly groups. I am glad that our morals in the USA have improved and we as a whole dont feel that way anymore and disapprove of those ideas. Why not quote the organizations leaders today or their website for information about how they feel and what they do.

 

[Ron Mexico]

so thats how you base your things.
something is good or bad based on if its a law or not?

good to know. end of discussion then!

Just stating a fact.

Morally? no I dont think its murder and should not be called that whether or not its a law. But it is not murder within the laws of this country and never will be.

But again if you think its murder how do you decide when its okay to murder and not to murder?

 

[DutchJazzer]

First of all its not murder by any law. Second of all I am I am responding to you saying you are morally opposed to me making a choice to have an abortion. I am not making that choice I am allowing others to make that choice and not forcing you to. You are forcing someone to not have an abortion except in the cases you deem okay but not in other cases. Although rereading your sentence it made no sense so I guess disregard my response to that sentence.

If abortion is murder (which it is not) than there should be 0 cases in which its okay right?

0 cases? i am against murder. but if someone comes to murder me there is a high probability he will die!

how about self defense analogy towards abortion
- if the mother will have live threatening condition because of the fetus. the fetus in effect is pursuing her. trying (albeit it unintentionally) to kill her!
so in self defense she can kill the fetus. how would this go into law. simple only certified panel of doctors(2nd opinion) could prescribe this abortion.


how about rape
if you are raped you can directly go and take morning after pil. if you are raped abortion shouldn't be the case because you should directly take action go to hospital police and yada yada. by that time it isnt a fetus yet so technically its a lump of cels.

but in a highly unusual case that the woman was afraid or whatever and lets say after 8 weeks she wants to abort? which i should be against because what has she been doing the previous 8 weeks? but then 1 could argue she did not chose to have sex, and thereby the consequences of the rape should not be hers to bear. and one could argue that bringing this child to health is a severe threat to her emotional health (nervous breakdown or other emotional trauma). so these must be decided on a case to case basis by humanbeings with morals.


every other case if YOU DID NOT WANT A KID dont ****ing have sex.
how the **** is this hard?

dont wanna kill a child while driving drunk don't drink or don't go behind the wheel of a car when drunk.
don't want a kid don't have ****ing sex.
because with both of the above actions there are consequences. and you should take responsibility for the consequences!

this goes both ways btw if a dude has sex if there is a child take the ****ing responsibility. be there for the child!

 

[Ron Mexico]

how about rape
if you are raped you can directly go and take morning after pil. if you are raped abortion shouldn't be the case because you should directly take action go to hospital police and yada yada. by that time it isnt a fetus yet so technically its a lump of cels.

So its not murder if its within a few days? How many days exactly? They can be taken up to 5 days after so is it murder on the 6th day?

Morning after pill is okay for everyone? or just rape victims?

Is it Murder if a non rape victim takes a morning after pill or can anyone take these?

BTW 90% of rape cases are not reported.

 

[♪alt13]

So its not murder if its within a few days? How many days exactly? They can be taken up to 5 days after so is it murder on the 6th day?

Morning after pill is okay for everyone? or just rape victims?

Is it Murder if a non rape victim takes a morning after pill or can anyone take these?

BTW 90% of rape cases are not reported.

I take morning after pills daily. I really don't want to get pregnant.