Planned Parenthood Selling Baby Organs

[RandyForRubio]

You are kind of stuck on this one person who has nothing to do with what Planned Parenthood is doing today. That is like quoting all of the terrible things Christian leaders in the past have said and saying that Christians are terrible people because of it when that has nothing to do with Christians today and their beliefs.

These are not the reasons people are having abortions or how anyone involved feels about it. She had terrible ideas and was a racist. That is a fact. A lot of her ideas were widely accepted in scholarly groups. I am glad that our morals in the USA have improved and we as a whole dont feel that way anymore and disapprove of those ideas. Why not quote the organizations leaders today or their website for information about how they feel and what they do.

Perhaps you forgot that you brought up their proud history. That right there, that's their history.

 

[DutchJazzer]

So its not murder if its within a few days? How many days exactly? They can be taken up to 5 days after so is it murder on the 6th day?

Morning after pill is okay for everyone? or just rape victims?

Is it Murder if a non rape victim takes a morning after pill or can anyone take these?

BTW 90% of rape cases are not reported.

with rape it doesn't matter when live begins. because the woman had no choice!
but morning after pill and other emergency contraception is not abortion. just Google that **** man. educate yourself.

please educate yourself about morning after pill. you don't know ****!

so what if 90% of rapes are not reported. if they aren't reported how the **** do you know that! dont try and dazzle me with made up statistics.


we should inform potential "victims" to the options. we should educate society!

mruder is murder.

owning slave was legal, yet it was still wrong. so doesnt matter what the law says

 

[Ron Mexico]

with rape it doesn't matter when live begins. because the woman had no choice!
but morning after pill and other emergency contraception is not abortion. just Google that **** man. educate yourself.

please educate yourself about morning after pill. you don't know ****!

so what if 90% of rapes are not reported. if they aren't reported how the **** do you know that! dont try and dazzle me with made up statistics.


we should inform potential "victims" to the options. we should educate society!

mruder is murder.

I know what it is. Many people feel life begins at conception and that its wrong to use morning after pills. So when do you believe life begins?

If murder is murder than murdering just because a woman was raped seems wrong. What about murdering a rapists living (out of the womb) kids. If you view a fetus and a 2 year old kid as the same then thats okay?

A fetus that is conceived because of rape can be murdered because its different? I didnt think conception during rape changed the fetus in anyway.

Its just an estimate and a conservative one at that but there are ways to figure out how many rape cases go unreported. Seems like too much effort to try and discuss that with you though.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Perhaps you forgot that you brought up their proud history. That right there, that's their history.

They do have a great history and have done great things for women. I am sure there were more than her who had ill intentions and were not good people involved. That does not change what they have done and what they believe in.

Christians have a great history of doing good things, especially recently. They also have some really bad stuff in there from members and leaders, doesnt make me think Christians are inherently evil. I believe they preach being good people.

 

[DutchJazzer]

I know what it is. Many people feel life begins at conception and that its wrong to use morning after pills. So when do you believe life begins?

If murder is murder than murdering just because a woman was raped seems wrong. What about murdering a rapists living (out of the womb) kids. If you view a fetus and a 2 year old kid as the same then thats okay?

A fetus that is conceived because of rape can be murdered because its different? I didnt think conception during rape changed the fetus in anyway.

Its just an estimate and a conservative one at that but there are ways to figure out how many rape cases go unreported. Seems like too much effort to try and discuss that with you though.

doesnt' matter what i believe!
i believe unicorns are gone because the 2 unicorns who got on noahs ark where gay. so unicorns are extinct now.
but the **** has believe to do with it.

i do not view the them as the same.
1 is potential human live and the other is human live

done arguing with you and your retarded murderous point of view.

so please stfu and kill yourself

 

[DutchJazzer]

They do have a great history and have done great things for women. I am sure there were more than her who had ill intentions and were not good people involved. That does not change what they have done and what they believe in.

Christians have a great history of doing good things, especially recently. They also have some really bad stuff in there from members and leaders, doesnt make me think Christians are inherently evil. I believe they preach being good people.

religion has got nothing to do with abortion being wrong

 

[Ron Mexico]

doesnt' matter what i believe!
i believe unicorns are gone because the 2 unicorns who got on noahs ark where gay. so unicorns are extinct now.
but the **** has believe to do with it.

i do not view the them as the same.
1 is potential human live and the other is human live

done arguing with you and your retarded murderous point of view.

so please stfu and kill yourself

Lol, good answer. Was trying to understand your logic and this cleared it up for me.

 

[Ron Mexico]

religion has got nothing to do with abortion being wrong

Um, you said you were done...

Plus that is not the point I made. I am talking about history of groups. I used Christians as an example. Fill in other group and the argument is the same.

 

[Jamezz]

I take morning after pills daily. I really don't want to get pregnant.

Salt13 at his best.

 

[Jamezz]

doesnt' matter what i believe!
i believe unicorns are gone because the 2 unicorns who got on noahs ark where gay. so unicorns are extinct now.
but the **** has believe to do with it.

i do not view the them as the same.
1 is potential human live and the other is human live

done arguing with you and your retarded murderous point of view.

so please stfu and kill yourself

Deep

 

[DutchJazzer]

Lol, good answer. Was trying to understand your logic and this cleared it up for me.

ok

 

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So according to the statistics provided the majority of women having abortions the men involved have left them. Should they be punished for this as well? They have a choice to leave and not have a baby. Monetarily they might be burdened in some cases but how about in other ways?

Okay so if you can not afford something you can murder people?

This is most disgusting logic I ever hear of liberals.

Wait I say liberals and logic in same sentence. Oxymoron. Save the chickens from laying food eggs in factory farms. Kill the fertilized human eggs in abortion factory.

 

[Ron Mexico]

ok

Uh oh, dont let Dutchy see this post he hates that word and negs it. And tells you to perform sexual acts on him in his neg comment.

yeah ok, suck mu **** whish your parents aborted you!

 

[DutchJazzer]

Uh oh, dont let Dutchy see this post he hates that word and negs it. And tells you to perform sexual acts on him in his neg comment.

ok

 

[Ron Mexico]

Okay so if you can not afford something you can murder people?

This is most disgusting logic I ever hear of liberals.

Wait I say liberals and logic in same sentence. Oxymoron. Save the chickens from laying food eggs in factory farms. Kill the fertilized human eggs in abortion factory.

I didnt make a claim in that post about affording a child or not. I asked a question based on stats provided by lil dutchy.

Also not sure I am a liberal, dont vote that way but I guess ill take the compliment.

lib·er·al (lĭb′ər-əl, lĭb′rəl)
adj.
1.
a. Favoring reform, open to new ideas, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; not bound by traditional thinking; broad-minded.

 

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I didnt make a claim in that post about affording a child or not. I asked a question based on stats provided by lil dutchy.

Also not sure I am a liberal, dont vote that way but I guess ill take the compliment.

Okay sorry my friend I read wrong. You made it read two wrong makes right. I hear liberals on radio claim women's suffrage you know like because men do not get impregnate then the women are disadvantaged so it is okay to murder children to make things fair. I swear this is only thing liberals care for. To make everything fair. So answer to deadbeats dad is kill children instead punish the dad? Twisted logic

 

[babe]

For me life isn't the sticking point. No one is protesting a bread factory over the sanctity of life violated by the crushing of millions of seeds. Whether human matters.

I think that a very strong case can be made for viability. That would put a complete ban (barring medical exceptions) at ~24 weeks and require viability testing back to 21 weeks.

I think a somewhat weaker case could be made earlier but I don't think we can go all the way back to conception and call that lump of cells human.

Personally I start to recognize a fetus as human sometime within the first trimester. Having seen an ultrasound of my children before 24 weeks I feel that they were human before viability but I try not to wantonly impose my feelings on the world.

OK, but what about this idea of "wantonly" imposing anybody else's ideas on the world? Maybe you're beginning to agree with the whole concept of limited government, afterall.

According to my sources, the 20-week viability barrier has to do with lung development threshold. If we could just put a baby in an artificial womb and feed it all the right hormones and nutrients and whatever other growth factors the mother is supplying, the theoretical viability criteria could be met within minutes of ova fertilization. . . .

To me, a government that would dictate that would be little different from a government that dictates infanticide.

 

[♪alt13]

OK, but what this idea of "wantonly" imposing anybody else's ideas on the world? Maybe you're beginning to agree with the whole concept of limited government, afterall.

According to my sources, the 20-week viability barrier has to do with lung development threshold. If we could just put a baby in an artificial womb and feed it all the right hormones and nutrients and whatever other growth factors the mother is supplying, the theoretical viability criteria could be met within minutes of ova fertilization. . . .

Ultimately, I'm probably for less government than you are. Have you ever taken inventory of all the government that you are for? Some of the things that I would abandon would shock you.

 

[DutchJazzer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcu4IWRos0g


hahahhhahahahhhahahaha liberals are funny.

i am seriously NOT sure if they are serious .


spindoctering the **** out of this fiasco.
do these liberalscum know fetus feel pain?

 

[gandalfe]

do these liberalscum know fetus feel pain?

The best available evidence is that a fetus feels pain somewhere around 27-28 weeks.