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Players that could be had for Memo TPE

GVC said:
What about the TPE for Maggette, with Kemba (and picks?) thrown in next summer? Charlotte then has loads of caps space to sign Dwight and Deron in the offseason (I haven't done all the math).

Not sure if anyone else is as big a Kemba fan as I am, but I'd love a deal like this. With Maggette expiring in 2013, any plan to sign free agents that offseason is completely unchanged.
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You must be kidding.
 
Why?

If the Jazz aren't going to be active in free agency until 2013, they lose absolutely nothing with this deal and gain Kemba Walker.

If Dwight Howard isn't extend-and-traded, he'll be a free agent next summer, and if the Bobcats can clear Maggette, could have the money to lure in him plus one more big name free agent (Deron, for example).

Do you really think the Jazz are going to do better than Kemba Walker plus a 2013 expiring for the TPE? Or do you think Charlotte would be stupid to do this deal IF Howard+Deron is a real possibility?
 
Putting aside my disinterest in Walker, I can't see Deron and Dwight signing in Charlotte. With only a few moves, Dallas has the same cap space Charlotte does. If Orlando is foolish enough not to trade Howard this season, I see them both angling to play in Dallas. On paper, though, it's a good deal.
 
franklin said:
If it's taking a Maynor type player along with an 8 million expiring then big whoop.
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The finances don't work the same both ways. In the Harpring/Maynor instance, the Jazz were mostly saving on LT payments. Some of Harp's salary was being paid by insurance and OKC didn't have to worry about the tax ramifications. So OKC basically 'bought' Maynor for a few million while the Jazz saved somewhere around $8.

No matter what, the organization saves money and get a 2nd rounder (eventually). Whether they're more on the 'saving$11 million' side or more on the 'getting something down the road' side is what's the question now. Add that to more time for the young players and Memo was on his way out and you've done something pretty smart.

I am in favor of things that give a team more options. Despite my initial hatred of the Deron trade.
 
billyshelby said:
I'm not pretending to know Walker's future. But short, shoot first PG's never rank high on my list.
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I don't consider Walker a shoot first point guard. Prior to last season, he was primarily a distributor, and thrives in that role. Dude is as competitive as they come, understands pace and spacing, and is a tremendous leader and presence on the floor. A winner.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The finances don't work the same both ways. In the Harpring/Maynor instance, the Jazz were mostly saving on LT payments. Some of Harp's salary was being paid by insurance and OKC didn't have to worry about the tax ramifications. So OKC basically 'bought' Maynor for a few million while the Jazz saved somewhere around $8.

No matter what, the organization saves money and get a 2nd rounder (eventually). Whether they're more on the 'saving$11 million' side or more on the 'getting something down the road' side is what's the question now. Add that to more time for the young players and Memo was on his way out and you've done something pretty smart.

I am in favor of things that give a team more options. Despite my initial hatred of the Deron trade.
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What was you're point again? You and selby have an eerily similar ability of making this thread into something completely different. If you didn't notice the title... It's not about what a good job KOC is doing or MJ's finances. I realize I ignored selby the first time so thank you for getting over it.

"Players that could be had..."
 
franklin said:
What was you're point again? You and selby have an eerily similar ability of making this thread into something completely different. If you didn't notice the title... It's not about what a good job KOC is doing or MJ's finances. I realize I ignored selby the first time so thank you for getting over it.

"Players that could be had..."
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You said: "Who can we get?"

I/others said: "It's not about getting a high dollar player."

You said: "If we get Maynor, big whoop"

I/others said: A late first was the best we were going to get for Memo in the first place. So that's not bad. Then GVC offered a possible scenario.

You said: "Yeah, but who can we get?"


So what is YOUR point? We've already covered the list of guys we could swap. Now we're covering the other possibilities for the TPE. This is called a discussion. Feel free to just listen if you can't follow it.
 
GVC said:
Why?

If the Jazz aren't going to be active in free agency until 2013, they lose absolutely nothing with this deal and gain Kemba Walker.

If Dwight Howard isn't extend-and-traded, he'll be a free agent next summer, and if the Bobcats can clear Maggette, could have the money to lure in him plus one more big name free agent (Deron, for example).

Do you really think the Jazz are going to do better than Kemba Walker plus a 2013 expiring for the TPE? Or do you think Charlotte would be stupid to do this deal IF Howard+Deron is a real possibility?
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Why would the Bobcats trade a rookie, top 10 pick? Do you think that they'd really believe they could attract said free agents? And do you really think those guys have any interest in Charlotte? The Jazz would have a better shot at getting those guys because we at least have a supporting cast in place to put around them.

C'mon bro.
 
GVC said:
I don't consider Walker a shoot first point guard. Prior to last season, he was primarily a distributor, and thrives in that role. Dude is as competitive as they come, understands pace and spacing, and is a tremendous leader and presence on the floor. A winner.
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So for you, he this year's DeMarcus Cousins. A guy you love and would love to have. Funny enough, those two guys are probably the same two I'd love to have. You can't teach balls.
 
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