green
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Argh.
Power Tankings
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Argh.
spycam1
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Spy's Power Tankings
--Edition 1 style yo--
1. Philadelphia 76ers - Before the season began EVERYONE thought they would have the worst record in the league. Minus their first three games, they've been as bad as the Jazz, which is really saying something. I see them trading Evan Turner or someone to make them worse, if need be. Bottom line, I see them as the team that will do what it takes to be at the bottom, whether it's gutting their roster even more, or having their players sit due to suspicious injuries. As the season roles on, I think it will become more clear that they're Public Enemy #1 to the Jazz tank.
2. Utah Jazz - Not much I can say that hasn't been said a million times. But I have more faith that Lindsey will make moves or tell players to nurse injuries this season than most do. The tank is alive and well, boys. Burke isn't going to will this team to TOO many wins.
3. Milwaukee Bucks - They're terrible, but that's largely because of injuries and their FO doesn't seem to be committed to tanking--that's what separates them and Philly.
4. Orlando Magic - They had the worst record last year, so they know what they're doing. But their roster is obviously a little better.
5. Sacramento Kings - They're in the West, so yeah. I can see the Gay trade making them a little better (maybe), but the West is just too brutal. They rank this high by default, even if they aren't necessarily trying to be bad.
6. Toronto Raptors - They're still an enigma. They could easily climb into the top 3, but until I see them actually sucking that bad, I see five teams that are worse than them.
7. Cleveland Cavaliers - Oh the Cavs. So silly.
Dark Horse - Chicago Bulls - They're in a position that reminds me of the Spurs back when Robinson got injured and they tanked for Duncan. I don't understand what the Bulls have to gain by a first or second round playoff exit yet again. The opportunity has presented itself for them to pair Rose with another deadly young player (an opportunity that won't come again). It's certainly what they should do IMO. Amnesty Boozer, trade Deng, etc. I hope they don't, cause more competitors in the tank is bad for us obviously, but it would be interesting, and I still think there's a chance they'll go through with it.
--Edition 1 style yo--
1. Philadelphia 76ers - Before the season began EVERYONE thought they would have the worst record in the league. Minus their first three games, they've been as bad as the Jazz, which is really saying something. I see them trading Evan Turner or someone to make them worse, if need be. Bottom line, I see them as the team that will do what it takes to be at the bottom, whether it's gutting their roster even more, or having their players sit due to suspicious injuries. As the season roles on, I think it will become more clear that they're Public Enemy #1 to the Jazz tank.
2. Utah Jazz - Not much I can say that hasn't been said a million times. But I have more faith that Lindsey will make moves or tell players to nurse injuries this season than most do. The tank is alive and well, boys. Burke isn't going to will this team to TOO many wins.
3. Milwaukee Bucks - They're terrible, but that's largely because of injuries and their FO doesn't seem to be committed to tanking--that's what separates them and Philly.
4. Orlando Magic - They had the worst record last year, so they know what they're doing. But their roster is obviously a little better.
5. Sacramento Kings - They're in the West, so yeah. I can see the Gay trade making them a little better (maybe), but the West is just too brutal. They rank this high by default, even if they aren't necessarily trying to be bad.
6. Toronto Raptors - They're still an enigma. They could easily climb into the top 3, but until I see them actually sucking that bad, I see five teams that are worse than them.
7. Cleveland Cavaliers - Oh the Cavs. So silly.
Dark Horse - Chicago Bulls - They're in a position that reminds me of the Spurs back when Robinson got injured and they tanked for Duncan. I don't understand what the Bulls have to gain by a first or second round playoff exit yet again. The opportunity has presented itself for them to pair Rose with another deadly young player (an opportunity that won't come again). It's certainly what they should do IMO. Amnesty Boozer, trade Deng, etc. I hope they don't, cause more competitors in the tank is bad for us obviously, but it would be interesting, and I still think there's a chance they'll go through with it.
yo i dont think MCW'S injury is suspicious. He's having an infection that's treated with antibiotics. And with antibiotics you don't jeopardize your health by having your body do exhausting tasks. If we were talking suspicious injuries, they'd select to treat Thaddeus Young's knees or Evan Turner's calfs.
green
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Show me a team that has won with "morals." I would love to see that.
Batman
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gotta think that at this juncture, any owner with common sense would go all in on the tank if they were in the bucks position
Oh then I misunderstood you...
The Jazz also won't sit Burke. If they sit someone it's Favors or the Vets. Hayward would be pissed if he has to sit as he's playing for a contract. Same with Kanter and Burks. Maybe they'll sit Burks as he won't get an early extension this summer.
That depends on how you define morals. Simply being a bad team has no bearing on morals. It is not who you have but how they try, or do not, that matters.
Detroit
Boston
Lakers
Portland
Miami
Dallas
If you want to go that route to win then fine. I do not. I don't like your way and you do not like mine. I think this has been covered.
green
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Out of those teams, how many of those teams are over the salary cap? If we are talking morals here, why is it okay for Miami and LA to go and do what Utah can't do (overspend and pay a lot in luxury tax), but not okay for Utah to take advantage of the system and try to lose?
All those teams you mentioned went into the luxury tax to win. They took advantage of the system to get the guys they wanted and did things other teams can't afford to do. Why when the Jazz take advantage of the system and do what any team can do, are they immoral, but the Lakers aren't?
The Bucks brought in Mayo and Butler to help them snag a playoff spot. I don't see their owner/management as having much common sense. But this team is certainly well-positioned to go into tank mode at any time.
UGLI baby
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You have to be kidding with the morals thing.
I'm not even sure what you are getting at, but Boston tanked their balls off the year Duncan was drafted.
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spycam1
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Based on their history, offseason moves, and comments from the FO, it seems pretty clear they'd rather be in the playoffs and they're currently only 4 games out of the playoff picture.
I s t aware that's the only titles they ever won. Basically I don't want my team to act like a bunch of douchebags. You do.
UGLI baby
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Explain what you are trying to say using different words pls.
spycam1
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What are we even talking about them doing that would make them douchebags? Whatever it is and I agreed it was something douchey, it still doesn't change the fact that douchey Championships > goody goody mediocrity.
green
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I don't know what sketchy morals you abide by, but in my view, it is immoral for the Jazz to not do everything they can to win a title, and seeing how the only way they can realistically win a title is to tank, to not tank would be immoral.
This has been gone over and over for months. My stance is well known and you want to go over it be my guest. Go read those posts. Y'all are ok with it and I'm not.
UGLI baby
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This **** right here.
spycam1
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Honestly not sure where you stand on some stuff.
I know you aren't okay with things like sitting players when they could probably play, but are you okay with what the Jazz FO has already done?
green
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There is no difference between sitting Favors with a sore back that he could play on, or sitting Favors because the season sucked and he is disheartened and is sick of losing or making sure you don't sign any of your good players so your odds of losing increase.
All three scenarios take players that are better than their replacements and not have them play for you so you will lose.