I think he air balled a shot 3 feet from the basket.
Preseason Game 1: Utah @ Portland, Monday Dec 19th, 8pm MST
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I think he air balled a shot 3 feet from the basket.
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Terrible is an exaggeration; he was 4/4 from the charity stripe, and and hit double figures in rebounding. Its funny how you've come to so many judgements to his game, when weve just seen him play the first NBA game of his career. Its unfair to assume that Kanter will be a solid defender right from the get-go, seeing as he hasn't played consistent basketball in two years; taking him out of the lineup will just make him worse. Not understanding your reasoning.
He did much more than Okur did. Okur was never the quickest guy on the floor, but he looked like a sloth out there. Though in his defense the starters sucked so bad that he may have just been collectively awful instead of individually awful.
Wow, that's some impressive optimism.
I think it's worth pointing out that Devin Harris had only 2 assists and Al Jefferson had only 3 rebounds. Something isn't right here.
Raja Bell was invisible, just taking up space, except for the couple of shots he got on kick-outs.
CJ Miles showed some potential, but didn't get many touches. A guy like him needs to warm up and stay hot.
Okur didn't even try to defend or rebound against guys who were quicker. He was Boozer-esque out there.
I think the Jazz should hand over the keys to the younger players sooner rather than later if the vets don't execute better. The team used to rely on one-dimensional role players and a dynamic point guard. Now we need to play multi-dimensional players like Burks, Hayward, Miles over players like Raja and Okur. Josh Howard and Paul Millsap could be all the veteran presence we need.
I'd like to see Favors, Hayward, Burks and Millsap on the floor together. Play Favors/Kanter when you want to go big. Play Favors/Millsap when you want to go smaller. No way the other team can keep both Favors and Kanter out of the paint and off the glass.
billyshelby
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On footwork and jitters, I'd give him a solid B. On actually playing NBA D where he has to recognize P&R's and rotate, I'd give him an F.
If all you see is Kanter Getting A Rebound, or Kanter Fighting Inside, then you're not seeing anything. Yeah, he can do those things. And he shows a lot of potential being a good inside player. But he's so bad defensively that right now he isn't worth having on the court.
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really just poor coaching IMO. I am not anti corbin, but damn I am disapointed with his decisions tonight.
Yeah, Okur getting put on Batum on switches is weird. But nonetheless, he's too slow to show on screen/rolls.
Doesn't exempt from criticism on a one game basis.
billyshelby
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Fair. It was preseason. If it was an experiment, I get it. But I think we already know that Okur can't defend 3's and Hayward/CJ are not equipped to handle Wallace. So I think Ty was trying to get fancy. I hope he doesn't do that anymore.
Sneakers
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He will magically improve this defense - the defense you need the magical billyshelby lenses to see - on the bench. First pre-season game, your superior basketball intuition and viewing ability has doomed him to 13th man status.
Archie Moses
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He has played one preseason game, guy. Calm down. Both you and I can't make the judgement if he is worth playing.
We need to give Kanter a break. He's been in the league for like 5 minutes. He relies on the players around him knowing what they're doing. He was having a tough night, and he still grabbed 10 rebounds while Okur and Jefferson grabbed 5 combined.
Don't see why people are getting so mad at people critiquing Kanter's game. Yes we all know this is his first game, doesn't mean we can't comment on his game and what he did well/bad.
I think it's pretty obvious that at this point Kanter does not know jack about how to get his shot off as he has probably relied on his mature physique to create space for himself. He is quickly finding out that doesn't cut it in the NBA. Hopefully he can grasp the concept of angles and doing things quickly.
I think it's pretty obvious that at this point Kanter does not know jack about how to get his shot off as he has probably relied on his mature physique to create space for himself. He is quickly finding out that doesn't cut it in the NBA. Hopefully he can grasp the concept of angles and doing things quickly.
billyshelby
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Well we'll just find out if my magical billy goggles are wrong. I see a guy who is so limited defensively that he'll be lucky to average 10 a game. We'll see who's right.
Sneakers
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Sigged.
If Kanter is only getting 10 minutes a night it is because Corbin is insisting on playing Memo and Jeff in front of him out of "preferred-veteran" status.
Sneakers
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Obviously there's a lot to critique, however, "terrible" just doesn't seem fair.
Not mad, just being rational. Kanter is going to have to learn that he has to dunk the ball quickly or learn to use the glass. Taking time to gather himself and going up at the rim directly is going to get him stuffed with regularity. That said, he's both willing and able to get right under the basket and battle, which is more than either Jefferson or Okur were willing to do.
Anyone want to say anything about Jeremy Evans? He had 9 pts and 3 rebs in 9 minutes.
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And it is not only defensively. His lack of speed and lift will be serious problem on offense as well. He may learn how to seal his defender and get layups and to the free throw line ( he should really study Malones post work from his late years when he was not dunking anymore ). If he will have enough IQ and work ethic to learn it then it may get him half his points in the future otherwise it will be painful struggle with athletic players all the time.
Kanter - 6 months YOUNGER than anyone in the NBA. Take that into account and not playing regularly for 2 years I give the kid a solid B tonight.
Favors - what I was hoping for. All the kid needs is confidence. I liked the comparison of McDyess preinjury/Amare combo.
Hayward - shot didn't fall but liked mostly what I seen.
Burks - I can now see many of the DWade comparisons. Can potentially see him as the main handler/distributer in the offense with a PG there mainly to knock down outside shots.
Evans - high energy and like him at the 3 maybe with Millsap on the court. Still want to see if he can consistently hit anything outside of an Earlyoop or whatever.
Okur - Done - I think my fried turkey I had at thanksgiving moved quicker side to side
Chucker J - Chucker J.... One good game, three games of nothing. Didn't expect anything different.
Harris - still ok with him at point
Howard - no clue what he was trying to do... Good defense though
Jeffy - Looked like the slow Jeffy as last year and no push on defense.
Watson - good backup pg and glad we signed him but needs to initiate the offense sooner. Can't put all this on him.
Bell - Ring the damn bell already as his career is over
Favors - what I was hoping for. All the kid needs is confidence. I liked the comparison of McDyess preinjury/Amare combo.
Hayward - shot didn't fall but liked mostly what I seen.
Burks - I can now see many of the DWade comparisons. Can potentially see him as the main handler/distributer in the offense with a PG there mainly to knock down outside shots.
Evans - high energy and like him at the 3 maybe with Millsap on the court. Still want to see if he can consistently hit anything outside of an Earlyoop or whatever.
Okur - Done - I think my fried turkey I had at thanksgiving moved quicker side to side
Chucker J - Chucker J.... One good game, three games of nothing. Didn't expect anything different.
Harris - still ok with him at point
Howard - no clue what he was trying to do... Good defense though
Jeffy - Looked like the slow Jeffy as last year and no push on defense.
Watson - good backup pg and glad we signed him but needs to initiate the offense sooner. Can't put all this on him.
Bell - Ring the damn bell already as his career is over