Red
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Yeah, I remember hearing that repeatedly from someone…..
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Red
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At no time did anyone here claim Trump personally helped put Project 2025 together. You simply rejected it altogether as anything of any significance whatsoever. In your view, it was stupid to even mention its existence. You actually complained that it was a subject of discussion at all. Now, you try to squirm out of your dismissal of Project 2025 by claiming you only were pointing out that Trump himself did not personally work on putting Project 2025 together. I didn’t start a thread on Project 2025, for any reason other than pointing out it outlined plans for the next Republican administration.
Project 2025
With the Biden administration half over and with the immediate dangers inherent to one-party rule in Washington behind us for now, it’s past time to lay the groundwork for a White House more friendly to the right. For decades, as the left has continued its march through America’s institutions...
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The Heritage Foundation and a “second American Revolution”. Always seemed like a worthwhile discussion, to me, among the many political oriented threads focused on our present moment.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FznbfmZ0JZE&pp=ygUxQSBuZXcgYW1lcmljYW4gcmV2b2x1dGlvbiwgaWYgdGhlIGxlZnQgcGVybWl0cyBpdA%3D%3D
Al-O-Meter
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I rejected they way you were using it, and the way you use it still as a symbol. You use the invocation of Project 2025 to not address ideas. It is so lazy.
DEI is racism. DEI programs allocate based on the color of one's skin, and those doing the allocating are racist bigots because they have to be to allocate based on race. Racists spun up a narrative of DEI being good racism to counter the bad racism of the past, but it is nothing more than racism with a PR campaign. It is racism and it is gross. Stepping away from racism, good racism, bad racism, all racism is a worthy effort that has broad popular support and yes is in Project 2025.
The lazy way you have used Project 2025 you are now using to support racism, because weeding out racism is in Project 2025, and Project 2025 is bad therefor getting rid of racism is bad. The rub is that I don't think you are a racist person, but I do think you are prone to intellectual laziness. I think you are unwilling to tease through complicated systems to separate wheat from chaff, but instead make up your mind before you start and seek so-called experts who affirm your zero effort conclusion. That is what I reject.
The Thriller
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He can never admit he was wrong. lol pathetic
At no time did anyone here claim Trump personally helped put Project 2025 together. You simply rejected it altogether as anything of any significance whatsoever. In your view, it was stupid to even mention its existence. You actually complained that it was a subject of discussion at all. Now, you try to squirm out of your dismissal of Project 2025 by claiming you only were pointing out that Trump himself did not personally work on putting Project 2025 together. I didn’t start a thread on Project 2025, for any reason other than pointing out it outlined plans for the next Republican administration.
Project 2025
With the Biden administration half over and with the immediate dangers inherent to one-party rule in Washington behind us for now, it’s past time to lay the groundwork for a White House more friendly to the right. For decades, as the left has continued its march through America’s institutions...
The Heritage Foundation and a “second American Revolution”. Always seemed like a worthwhile discussion, to me, among the many political oriented threads focused on our present moment.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FznbfmZ0JZE&pp=ygUxQSBuZXcgYW1lcmljYW4gcmV2b2x1dGlvbiwgaWYgdGhlIGxlZnQgcGVybWl0cyBpdA%3D%3D
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He can never admit he was wrong. lol pathetic
Red
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I introduced the subject of Project 2025. It was never my job to write a dissertation. I left plenty of links for people to do their own research. I can’t read for people; they have to do that themselves….
you mention: “instead make up your mind before you start and seek so-called experts who affirm your zero effort conclusion. That is what I reject.”. Well, of course I know whose side I’m on, lol. Of course I have preconceived conclusions regarding the Heritage Foundation. Of course I will look for analysis that confirm my complete distrust of the Heritage Foundation. This is an existential struggle, where my country is concerned. This is a form of civil war at the moment. It’s serious, and I’m in no mood to suggest to myself “The folks in the Heritage Foundation care so much about me and Americans like me. I must be balanced enough to acknowledge the billionaire class cares deeply about Americans like myself”.
Give me a break. People can read, and articles describing how bad Project 2025 really is are fine with me. I can see very clearly what is happening in the United States. Last thing I can be expected to respect is your bs. I have never needed your help in having intellectual clarity in understanding the current moment in our nation’s history. Not in the least. I see clearly, and have for a long time now. Your opinion of me, your objections to my opinions, I have no reason to care. After all, your own vision is clouded, sir, IMO. And that’s entirely your problem. Not my responsibility to help you out.
Here are more. Have you read all 920 pages, before coming to your own conclusions? I have indeed depended on the analysis of others. yeah, I’m intellectually lazy because I did not read from first word to the last word in a 920 pages document put together by the Heritage Foundation. But others have, and I can post links describing their analysis. And I can find great merit in their analysis. Project 2025 greatly enhances the power of the Executive branch. The last thing we need. And it was not really that difficult to recognize this…
Project 2025, Explained | American Civil Liberties Union
Learn more about the Heritage Project initiative that threatens to erode our democracy — and how to fight it at ACLU.org.
www.aclu.org
The People’s Guide to Project 2025
We read Project 2025’s Mandate for Leadership so that you don’t have to.
democracyforward.org
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This report is part of a series from the Center for American Progress exposing how the sweeping Project 2025 policy agenda would harm all Americans. This new authoritarian playbook, published by the Heritage Foundation, would destroy the 250-year-old system of checks and balances upon which U.S. democracy has relied and give far-right politicians, judges, and corporations more control over Americans’ lives.
Introduction and summary
With American democracy already at a crisis point, extreme right-wing operatives have crafted an authoritarian playbook that would push it over the edge, destroying the nation’s 250-year-old bedrock system of checks and balances to create an imperial presidency. The Project 2025 Mandate for Leadership is a 920-page road map for a future president to wield excessive power to implement a dangerous policy agenda, ripping out democracy by its roots and replacing it with a system that most Americans would find unthinkable.1For many decades, there have been efforts to advance radical proposals to weaken America’s middle class, stripping them of fundamental freedoms and subverting the rule of law, most notably by capturing the U.S. Supreme Court. But the Project 2025 blueprint makes those prior efforts look quaint. Project 2025 unabashedly promotes the wholesale violation of norms and laws, consolidating enormous power in a president and trampling on Congress’ constitutional role—to take away Americans’ long-cherished freedoms and opportunities. Not only would this authoritarian playbook make it easier for a far-right executive branch to weaken the independence of public agencies, install political cronies throughout the government, punish people it disagrees with, and control what news the media can report, but it would also allow the government to eliminate abortion access, health care choices, overtime pay, educational opportunities, and countless other programs that benefit communities and families.
Quite simply, if Project 2025 is implemented, the United States would be unrecognizable. Instead, it would resemble autocracies around the world, such as Hungary and Turkey, which in recent years have severely weakened their democracies and vested inordinate power in authoritarian leaders who serve the interests of themselves, not the public. Once this backsliding occurs, it is incredibly difficult to fix. Make no mistake: This could easily happen in the United States without a firm system of checks and balances. Ominously, the Heritage Foundation, which created Project 2025, and its president declared in July 2024 that they are in the process of the “second American Revolution” and suggested that political violence may be necessary to effectuate their authoritarian blueprint if Americans resist.2
This report first discusses the background and draconian goals of Project 2025. It then explains how the plan’s extreme ideas could come to fruition, exploring seven critical guardrails that Project 2025 would demolish, including weaponizing the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) against political opponents and everyday Americans; politicizing independent agencies and executive branch departments; and replacing tens of thousands of nonpartisan civil servants with loyalists to do the president’s bidding. In each instance, this report provides concrete examples of the direct harms that would result from eliminating these crucial guardrails.
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Al-O-Meter
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I'm glad you have a bit of self-awareness and that we could find agreement.
The rest is mostly nonsense and will be exposed as such in the next 18 months when there is an election, then again 24 months after that when there is a presidential election. We aren't becoming an authoritarian country and nothing is happening to democracy.
As for the supposedly lost freedoms, nothing is being lost and that was actually the answer to what had been left out of your earlier fear over looming revolution. 1970 was the period in which Giswold v. Connecticut (1965), Eisenstadt v. Baird (1972), and Roe v. Wade (1973) were decided. Those decisions destroyed the American family and millions of women who used to raise children instead flooded into the labor market which dropped the value of labor causing real wages to decline for a long period. Without knowing it, you held high the economic case against a woman's right to kill her children and bought into the claims that it would lead to revolution.
While I do think allowing women to kill their children is bad, I don't think it will lead to revolution. It did lower real wages for a long time but eventually a new equilibrium was reached and wages started to rise again. The claim of real wages being stagnant is a case of cherry-picking end points and ignoring the crater between the end points showing us now on an upward trajectory. I do find it funny that you fell for it.