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Looks likely that quite a few from Puerto Rico will be heading for the US mainland:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/without-power-until-next-year-puerto-ricans-are-leavingmaybe-forever

And how the Supreme Court helped cement second class status for certain US territories:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...eme_court_decisions_that_cemented_puerto.html

"Downes v. Bidwell was the codification of McKinley-Roosevelt mindset. The case,which centered on a question of whether shipments from Puerto Rico to New York were interstate or international, established a new hierarchy of territories: They were now either “incorporated” with the United States or “unincorporated,” with only the former having the full protections of the Constitution. The court reasoned that Puerto Rico and the other new territories were “inhabited by alien races,” so governing them “according to Anglo-Saxon principles may for a time be impossible.” These islands, then, were “foreign in a domestic sense.”
 
Red said:
Looks likely that quite a few from Puerto Rico will be heading for the US mainland:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/without-power-until-next-year-puerto-ricans-are-leavingmaybe-forever

And how the Supreme Court helped cement second class status for certain US territories:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...eme_court_decisions_that_cemented_puerto.html

"Downes v. Bidwell was the codification of McKinley-Roosevelt mindset. The case,which centered on a question of whether shipments from Puerto Rico to New York were interstate or international, established a new hierarchy of territories: They were now either “incorporated” with the United States or “unincorporated,” with only the former having the full protections of the Constitution. The court reasoned that Puerto Rico and the other new territories were “inhabited by alien races,” so governing them “according to Anglo-Saxon principles may for a time be impossible.” These islands, then, were “foreign in a domestic sense.”
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Quite frankly I do not understand why places like Puerto Rico, and even New Orleans, are populated at all in the modern world. We know these things are going to happen. Storms of this magnitude are common in this region, and have been for hundreds of years of these cities being populated (go look at storm statistics from the 30's, easily as bad as anything recent). People know that N.O. is below sea level, and that another freak storm would wipe it out, yet again, but they stay there. Seriously there is so much land in the US they could literally drop P.R. into the middle of even like freaking Kansas and not make a blip on the radar. I think it is monumentally stupid that people continue to live in disaster alley, then get all outraged when the rest of us don't jump up and come running when the inevitable happens and costs EVERYONE billions to fix it, so they can rebuild with money that is not their own but siphoned off from everyone else as we subsidize increased prices and insurance rates and tax money that could go for actually improving quality of life, etc. then repeat and recycle in a few years.


/end rant
 
LogGrad98 said:
Quite frankly I do not understand why places like Puerto Rico, and even New Orleans, are populated at all in the modern world. We know these things are going to happen. Storms of this magnitude are common in this region, and have been for hundreds of years of these cities being populated (go look at storm statistics from the 30's, easily as bad as anything recent). People know that N.O. is below sea level, and that another freak storm would wipe it out, yet again, but they stay there. Seriously there is so much land in the US they could literally drop P.R. into the middle of even like freaking Kansas and not make a blip on the radar. I think it is monumentally stupid that people continue to live in disaster alley, then get all outraged when the rest of us don't jump up and come running when the inevitable happens and costs EVERYONE billions to fix it, so they can rebuild with money that is not their own but siphoned off from everyone else as we subsidize increased prices and insurance rates and tax money that could go for actually improving quality of life, etc. then repeat and recycle in a few years.


/end rant
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Pls stfu

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Let's just displace millions of people and move them into Kansas.

How can I add anything to such a genius idea?
 
str8line said:
Man, they are going to be hating it for a looong time. An all-out push to restore basic necessities would seem like a moral way to handle this but since there's no financial interest and our narcissist-in-chief would rather make light of their plight, probably because of his failed golf club, it's not going to happen.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...ill-dark-dry-frustrated/ar-AAtiZHf?li=BBnb7Kz
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lol blame it on the donald.

blmae puerot rico on him!


hahahahaha
it is never the fault of socialism and communism.

either they shift blame. or they say that wasnt real socialism!
 
LogGrad98 said:
Quite frankly I do not understand why places like Puerto Rico, and even New Orleans, are populated at all in the modern world. We know these things are going to happen. Storms of this magnitude are common in this region, and have been for hundreds of years of these cities being populated (go look at storm statistics from the 30's, easily as bad as anything recent). People know that N.O. is below sea level, and that another freak storm would wipe it out, yet again, but they stay there. Seriously there is so much land in the US they could literally drop P.R. into the middle of even like freaking Kansas and not make a blip on the radar. I think it is monumentally stupid that people continue to live in disaster alley, then get all outraged when the rest of us don't jump up and come running when the inevitable happens and costs EVERYONE billions to fix it, so they can rebuild with money that is not their own but siphoned off from everyone else as we subsidize increased prices and insurance rates and tax money that could go for actually improving quality of life, etc. then repeat and recycle in a few years.


/end rant
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i do not undertsand it also. but as i said, if youw ant to stay for whatever reason. why ntot build hurricane proof and prep some basic neccesities
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Let's just displace millions of people and move them into Kansas.

How can I add anything to such a genius idea?
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Or just keep spending billions every few years for no reason. That makes just as much sense. You really don't read well for nuance do you? Kansas was simply an example of a place that has plenty of room for everyone. There are multiple states that could take on the entire population of PR with no real issues, or spread it around, and it would probably add to the economy and provide a better standard of living for them as well.

Or we just stop insuring them and say look if you choose to live in an active disaster zone then take care of it yourself. My rant was a response to the article that shows many people wanting to leave PR due to these exact issues.

It was also just that, a rant, so implicit in that is a certain level of sarcasm and over-reaction.

But don't think beyond your initial knee-jerk reactions. Thinking is hard.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Or just keep spending billions every few years for no reason. That makes just as much sense. You really don't read well for nuance do you? Kansas was simply an example of a place that has plenty of room for everyone. There are multiple states that could take on the entire population of PR with no real issues, or spread it around, and it would probably add to the economy and provide a better standard of living for them as well.

Or we just stop insuring them and say look if you choose to live in an active disaster zone then take care of it yourself. My rant was a response to the article that shows many people wanting to leave PR due to these exact issues.

It was also just that, a rant, so implicit in that is a certain level of sarcasm and over-reaction.

But don't think beyond your initial knee-jerk reactions. Thinking is hard.
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Of all teh **** to complain about spending money on, helping people out in natural disasters is at the bottom.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Of all teh **** to complain about spending money on, helping people out in natural disasters is at the bottom.
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Again you read into it whatever you want. So I will give you a hearty "whatever dude" and be on my way.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Quite frankly I do not understand why places like Puerto Rico, and even New Orleans, are populated at all in the modern world. We know these things are going to happen. Storms of this magnitude are common in this region, and have been for hundreds of years of these cities being populated (go look at storm statistics from the 30's, easily as bad as anything recent). People know that N.O. is below sea level, and that another freak storm would wipe it out, yet again, but they stay there. Seriously there is so much land in the US they could literally drop P.R. into the middle of even like freaking Kansas and not make a blip on the radar. I think it is monumentally stupid that people continue to live in disaster alley, then get all outraged when the rest of us don't jump up and come running when the inevitable happens and costs EVERYONE billions to fix it, so they can rebuild with money that is not their own but siphoned off from everyone else as we subsidize increased prices and insurance rates and tax money that could go for actually improving quality of life, etc. then repeat and recycle in a few years.


/end rant
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Um. Ok, why don’t you take a trip to Puerto Rico, or NO and pitch them the idea of everyone picking up and moving wherever. Then convince “wherever” to take them in, give them jobs, a place to live, etc. If we lived in some sort of fantasy land where we could just snap our fingers and make things happen maybe something like your idea would be feasible. Here in reality it’s just not. Come on man, you’re smarter than this.
 
Right now the US govt is planning on rebuilding PR by LOANING them the money they need. Not grants, ****ing loans.

Also the EPA is citing reports of Puerto Ricans going to superfund sites to get drinking water. What a **** show. We can’t even get fresh water to US citizens weeks after a disaster and fools in here talking about relocating millions of people in anticipation of natural disasters. Smh.
 
Zombie said:
Right now the US govt is planning on rebuilding PR by LOANING them the money they need. Not grants, ****ing loans.

Also the EPA is citing reports of Puerto Ricans going to superfund sites to get drinking water. What a **** show. We can’t even get fresh water to US citizens weeks after a disaster and fools in here talking about relocating millions of people in anticipation of natural disasters. Smh.
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The USS Comfort, with over 800 doctors and nurses and hundreds of beds was serving yesterday SEVEN whole patients. While people are dying of treatable diseases in hospitals that lack medicine and electricity, we have a state of the art hospital ship in Port serving no one.

There's zero organization. Zero leadership. Donald is off attacking the NFL and media again while so many suffer.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Or just keep spending billions every few years for no reason. That makes just as much sense. You really don't read well for nuance do you? Kansas was simply an example of a place that has plenty of room for everyone. There are multiple states that could take on the entire population of PR with no real issues, or spread it around, and it would probably add to the economy and provide a better standard of living for them as well.

Or we just stop insuring them and say look if you choose to live in an active disaster zone then take care of it yourself. My rant was a response to the article that shows many people wanting to leave PR due to these exact issues.

It was also just that, a rant, so implicit in that is a certain level of sarcasm and over-reaction.

But don't think beyond your initial knee-jerk reactions. Thinking is hard.
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But then wouldn't people like you bitch about them living in Kansas and having to rebuild their homes every few years due to tornados?

Maybe we Should realize that natural disasters happen? But empty chairs in the white House who spend all of their time and focus arguing over Twitter over nonsense like the NFL while people suffer doesn't?

The preparation for this hurricane and our response has been utterly pathetic. People are raiding super fund sites in order to drink water. Nice job repubs. Maybe if we called this "the war on hurricanes" the GOP could take some time to care about this situation? We all know repubs only seem to care about stuff that starts with "the war" and handouts for the rich.

Maybe Puerto Ricans need to march with tiki torches and nazi flags reciting anti-Semitic chants so Donald will finally consider them "fine people" worth saving?
 
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