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Quin must go

If he benches Ricky he loses him probably for good
This has been mentioned a few times but I’m curious what it is we’re currently getting, or what it is we think we can later get, that makes us worried about this issue? And with whatever that is, does it bring enough to overcome what’s currently happening on the floor? If so, how much?
 
Who gives a **** what Rubio thinks. A good coach doesnt let a player dictate their terms. Especially a spud like Rubio.

"This has been mentioned a few times but I’m curious what it is we’re currently getting, or what it is we think we can later get, that makes us worried about this issue? And with whatever that is, does it bring enough to overcome what’s currently happening on the floor? If so, how much?"

I'm just saying if they lose him he becomes worthless as an asset. They might prefer to try to make a trade elsewhere and see if they can work with him to make him work better in a more ideal lineup. I think it's wrong, but to me it's not so egregious. If anything I think DL put him in a really tough position by putting such a big emphasis on Rubio as a big part of the team (the Jason Kidd comments etc). I'm sure there is some level of sunk cost fallacy going on as well. I think that it is worthwhile to at least see what Rubio can do in a more spread lineup. It's better for Rudy anyway, and the team wasn't really ever going to compete for a playoff spot once Rudy got injured. So I'll hold judgement until they exhaust those options. I'm not terribly optimistic, but I don't think it is a fireable mistake. I also think the Exum injury had tied Quin's hands more than most as far as PG goes. If you have Rubio as your backup Raul never plays for example, and I'm not Rubio is any better in a second unit.

Edit: no idea how to add text as a quote obviously. I followed the format exactly from the first, but the second didn't change to the boxed text.
 
Lol, y'all too harsh, busting poor Royce for giving a shout-out to his old roommate is so petty.
You can take it as petty... I’m sure MJ or Kobe would have gave their roommate a shoutout an hour after they embarrassed their team too. I enjoy real competitors, not the lovey dovey NBA we watch today.
 
There are no lineups possible but bad lineups. Hayward left at the last second and we made a very bad bet with Rubio and a couple players have declined. Hood is a good player but probably is at least a slight disappointment and to boot is extremely injury prone, a constant with this team. Gobert didn't play the whole season. Favors is often checked out because it is his contract year, has made it clear he doesn't want to be back. He and Rudy don't work and everyone knows it. Burks is inconsistent. The bet made by the front office that we could be an elite defensive team and that would make up for our sub offense has obviously blown up in their face. Turns out you can't be abominable offensively and expect the effort to be there night in and night out on defense. Plus, Exum, Hayward, and Gobert were our best defensive players last year. Criticize Exum for his lack of offense but he could stay in front of his man, and add Rudy in the backcourt and Hayward+Ingles--yeah, that's why we were so good defensively. It's not a surprise, if you think about it, why we are so bad.

It's not Snyder's fault, really. Every fan base in history thinks there is some magical rotation, some magical lineup that will fix the team, that somehow they can see but the coach can't. They expect Snyder to play the this magical lineup for 48 minutes a game, and that will fix the team. But it just isn't there on this team. We have two essential pieces--Mitchell, Gobert--an injured Exum, and not much else. Mitchell is a rookie, Gobert has been injured and we see how important it is, offensively and defensively, to have solid backcourt and wing players. If there isn't backcourt offense and defense then Gobert--who excels in complimenting that--won't be effective. This is true for any great big man.

It isn't Lindsay's fault either, tbh. He was put in an awful position the way Hayward left. I've said this before but Indiana should cheer Paul George forever--he could have left them like Hayward left us, sneaking out the door at the last second while pretending he wanted to be here and left them with nothing--but instead he was honest and look what they were able to go get. There wasn't anything available for us when Gordon left. Sure, I think they pitched us on the idea that they thought Hood could step up and replace a lot of Hayward's production, but i'm not sure they actually believed that so much as they had to keep a brave face and not scare away the season ticket holders, nor doom and undermine the team before it started. That's fair. Plus, we as a fanbase, probably out of pride, wanted to front like we could still win 40+ games this year and show hayward he wasn't that important. That probably led to a lot of the too high expectations, and why a lot of fans, like the OP, are lashing out. And that's fair too. This off season was a huge blow and, frankly, a humiliation, and it was unthinkable to admit that the last seven years had only been building up to one first round clippers series, and it was over. Back to square one. Maybe square two. We are rebuilding again. I know I didn't want to admit that.

But we got Mitchell. I think Snyder is a very good coach, and Lindsey is a very good GM. Let's see what they do in the draft this year.

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This is a horrible post. Quin is one of the best coaches in the NBA. No. Just no. Stop it.
 
I just can't allow myself to believe that Quin is actually so dumb to believe that Rubio is working. I think he feels he has no other choice and know it's maybe advisable at this point to lose games anyway.
Yeah, he's in a tough situation. You expect a guy with Rubio's experience to be able to run the team but then when he completely fails way beyond expectations, what do you do. Bench him? You might as well toss that big salary out the window. You need to keep his perceived value up, even though it's probably less than a late second-round draft pick now -- in other words, worse than a POS by NBA standards. I'm sure Lindsey and Quin have been trying to figure out what to do now.
 
There are no lineups possible but bad lineups. Hayward left at the last second and we made a very bad bet with Rubio and a couple players have declined. Hood is a good player but probably is at least a slight disappointment and to boot is extremely injury prone, a constant with this team. Gobert didn't play the whole season. Favors is often checked out because it is his contract year, has made it clear he doesn't want to be back. He and Rudy don't work and everyone knows it. Burks is inconsistent. The bet made by the front office that we could be an elite defensive team and that would make up for our sub offense has obviously blown up in their face. Turns out you can't be abominable offensively and expect the effort to be there night in and night out on defense. Plus, Exum, Hayward, and Gobert were our best defensive players last year. Criticize Exum for his lack of offense but he could stay in front of his man, and add Rudy in the backcourt and Hayward+Ingles--yeah, that's why we were so good defensively. It's not a surprise, if you think about it, why we are so bad.

It's not Snyder's fault, really. Every fan base in history thinks there is some magical rotation, some magical lineup that will fix the team, that somehow they can see but the coach can't. They expect Snyder to play the this magical lineup for 48 minutes a game, and that will fix the team. But it just isn't there on this team. We have two essential pieces--Mitchell, Gobert--an injured Exum, and not much else. Mitchell is a rookie, Gobert has been injured and we see how important it is, offensively and defensively, to have solid backcourt and wing players. If there isn't backcourt offense and defense then Gobert--who excels in complimenting that--won't be effective. This is true for any great big man.

It isn't Lindsay's fault either, tbh. He was put in an awful position the way Hayward left. I've said this before but Indiana should cheer Paul George forever--he could have left them like Hayward left us, sneaking out the door at the last second while pretending he wanted to be here and left them with nothing--but instead he was honest and look what they were able to go get. There wasn't anything available for us when Gordon left. Sure, I think they pitched us on the idea that they thought Hood could step up and replace a lot of Hayward's production, but i'm not sure they actually believed that so much as they had to keep a brave face and not scare away the season ticket holders, nor doom and undermine the team before it started. That's fair. Plus, we as a fanbase, probably out of pride, wanted to front like we could still win 40+ games this year and show hayward he wasn't that important. That probably led to a lot of the too high expectations, and why a lot of fans, like the OP, are lashing out. And that's fair too. This off season was a huge blow and, frankly, a humiliation, and it was unthinkable to admit that the last seven years had only been building up to one first round clippers series, and it was over. Back to square one. Maybe square two. We are rebuilding again. I know I didn't want to admit that.

But we got Mitchell. I think Snyder is a very good coach, and Lindsey is a very good GM. Let's see what they do in the draft this year.

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Good points.

Our biggest problem is effort IMO. You get a few guys giving less than their all and the whole team brings it down a notch. Haywad is not the reason we've gone from one of the best defenses in the league to a floor mat.

Favors is a loafer. Ingles has become a loafer. Hood is made of glass and when his game is off he disappears. Burks tries but he's mentally overwhelmed. Rubio shoots worse than half the kids on my sons team. Jerebko tries but is just a pawn. Jesus is old and slower but I still believe and he brings more than his play. Udoh, Neto and Sef are good pieces. O'Neale is kind of our new Booker. Don and Rudy are awesome. And I think Dante has a good career in him.

So... Ingles needs to man the **** up, Favors needs to go, Hood needs to go, and Burks needs to go. Rubio needs to go too.

And Exum needs to come back and show a little Kobe.
 
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In no way calling for Quins head, but if I have to open another first quarter with 6 or 7 Rubio shot attempts clanking off the rim I might break the tv

I agree but even after Rubio's tank-show we were right there after halftime. This loss isn't on just Rubio. The whole team folded. And Donovan was atrocious for a spell.
 
I don’t think Quin has a ton to work with. He’s the same coach that won 51 games last season and a playoff series. Coaches are important, great players are more important.


This kind of competitiveness from players bothers me as a fan. I like Royce, but after getting embarrassed by the worst team in the league and showing little to no effort as a team, the last thing you do if you care about losing is post this on twitter:



Not to mention Favs smiling and joking, Donovan smiling and joking before they even leave the court. Sorry, as a competitor a sorry loss like tonight should bother you more than when the buzzer goes off. Maybe i was spoiled by guys like Stockton and Malone who were true competitors and not patting the opposing guys on the back for embaressing them. I would prefer the D-Will grumpiness after a bad embaressing loss like this at least I knew he cared about losing.


Please no.

Players don't have to be dbags in order to be competitive. Would you rather have Duncan or Kobe as a teammate?

Also, players do compete on the court but once the horn sounds, it's over. They understand it's a game and most players don't let it interfere with their friendships. At the end of games they go and say hello to their buddies, smile, make jokes. Even during games! (lol JR Smith:D)

There are a few uber competitive players who don't give a crap about anyone. But yeah, not everybody wants to be Westbrook

I understand your point and we all love those old-school rivalries/beef between players, but I care more about what I see on the court
 
Quin's offense is hot trash and hard to watch. Gordon Haywood, Boris Diaw, Trey Lyles and an often injured George Hill weren't worth 20 more wins than Udoh, Jerebko, Thabo, and Mitchell. Quin is simply refusing to try anything much different than 40 and 50 with this group. Even his HORNS transitions into 50 more often than not.

His defense also sucks ***.
 
I agree but even after Rubio's tank-show we were right there after halftime. This loss isn't on just Rubio. The whole team folded. And Donovan was atrocious for a spell.
If Donovan is off, we are far and away the most unwatchable team in the league
 
Yeah, Snyder is pretty widely recognized as one of the better coaches in the league.

Just for kicks and giggles, fans who are quick to blame the coach should pay a visit to a Spurs forum. Nowadays, you'll find spurs fans who think Pop is trash and his lineups suck. It's pretty funny, and it really puts things in perspective as to sports fans in general.
 
How does a coach keep trotting out the same lineup that just doesn't work?

Is Snyder the ONLY one who doesn't see Rubio, Favors and Gobert doesn't work? I was excited a couple of games ago to hear Hood was finally starting. And then I see he substituted Hood for Ingles instead of moving Bricky to the bench.

I'm quickly souring on Snyder. The defense sucks, the offense is easy to guard. Sure, some players have developed under his coaching, but some have not. I'm not sure his success rate is much different than any number of other coaches.
I've been waiting for the last straw on this whiney mofo. Just happened. Ignore function activated.

It's time to re-balance your life, braugh
 
Why Quin never gave a chance to Tyrone Wallace? He is a starter with the Clippers and he is playing very well.

He didn't believe in Lyles either.

I don't want the Jazz to trade Hood and he becomes an All-Star with another team.
 
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