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fishonjazz said:
Rubio is proven doe
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I don't know the answer to this...

Rubio gives you 10 points a night, right?

Has he ever been the best player on the court? He's always had Love or KAT, right?

Will being the #1 option hurt or help him?
 
green said:
I don't know the answer to this...

Rubio gives you 10 points a night, right?

Has he ever been the best player on the court? He's always had Love or KAT, right?

Will being the #1 option hurt or help him?
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Rubio makes the people (wings especially) around him better. Hood should benefit greatly

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Need a power forward, we've brought in zero and dealt one so if it ends like this I rate it wtf. How do we draft Goss and not a 4?
 
rare144 said:
Need a power forward, we've brought in zero and dealt one so if it ends like this I rate it wtf. How do we draft Goss and not a 4?
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I agree we need a backup PF since I doubt the Jazz want JJ to fill that role too much in the regular season because he will wear down too much. But I could be wrong, they might be thinking that is his spot now. Either way we need to pick up a cheap backup PF but there are still some left that will do just fine. Although I am still hoping we go after Mirotic.

Also a 2nd round pick is not useful in filling the PF spot.

But we still have Favors, JJ, Bolomboy and Diaw that are PFs. We also have Ingles who can play some there.
 
DL gets an A for the picks. Mitchell is a rotation player, and Bradley looks like a good project. I don't give a **** about the 2nd round. Finding a player there is a total crapshoot.

He gets an A for trading a late first rounder for one of the best playmakers in the league. 11 points scored + 9 assists = +/-33 points per game.

He gets a D+ for losing Hayward, but I'm not convinced that there was anything else he could have done to set the table for him to stay. He built the entire team around the guy, and gave him a coach that is just as good as Stevens. Gordon just didn't want to be here.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
DL gets an A for the picks. Mitchell is a rotation player, and Bradley looks like a good project. I don't give a **** about the 2nd round. Finding a player there is a total crapshoot.

He gets an A for trading a late first rounder for one of the best playmakers in the league. 11 points scored + 9 assists = +/-33 points per game.

He gets a D+ for losing Hayward, but I'm not convinced that there was anything else he could have done to set the table for him to stay. He built the entire team around the guy, and gave him a coach that is just as good as Stevens. Gordon just didn't want to be here.
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Colin Cowheard gave Boston a D for the Haywood signing. He said that they had to give up 26 ppg and only got 21ppg back.
 
homeytennis said:
Colin Cowheard gave Boston a D for the Haywood signing. He said that they had to give up 26 ppg and only got 21ppg back.
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Anyone who maxes Haywood should get a D. That would have been the same for us. It is the silver lining of losing him. He's a good player, but he is not a superstar player in this league.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
DL gets an A for the picks. Mitchell is a rotation player, and Bradley looks like a good project. I don't give a **** about the 2nd round. Finding a player there is a total crapshoot.

He gets an A for trading a late first rounder for one of the best playmakers in the league. 11 points scored + 9 assists = +/-33 points per game.

He gets a D+ for losing Hayward, but I'm not convinced that there was anything else he could have done to set the table for him to stay. He built the entire team around the guy, and gave him a coach that is just as good as Stevens. Gordon just didn't want to be here.
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I think that is reasonable. I do think he could have done more but I am not sure it would have helped. There were still attainable players that might have convinced him to stay. I give him an F if Hayward actually requested a trade last off season and they held on to him. The Jazz sound like they were pretty confident in re-signing Hayward. I wonder what Hayward said to them and what they knew. Some people claim to know he was leaving but those might have been pure guesses that just happened to be right. Based on what the Jazz did with Hayward they must have thought they had the best chance of signing him over any other team.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
Anyone who maxes Haywood should get a D. That would have been the same for us. It is the silver lining of losing him. He's a good player, but he is not a superstar player in this league.
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I am okay with him gone but he is well worth the Max. Every team in the NBA would love him on their team for the Max, except maybe GS.
 
karl malone said:
*He also moved up for Bradley, who seems capable of eventually developing into a productive traditional backup big (although I question whether this is the direction he would've taken had he known Hayward's intentions)
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Maybe this is why he got rid of an ineffective stretch 4 and moved up to draft Mitchell?
 
If Colin gave the Celtics a D then no doubt we get an F. We lost 40+ ppg in agency for 10 points per game so far. AND WE ALREADY WERE ONE OF THE LOWEST SCORING TEAMS IN THE NBA LOL
 
green said:
I don't know the answer to this...

Rubio gives you 10 points a night, right?

Has he ever been the best player on the court? He's always had Love or KAT, right?

Will being the #1 option hurt or help him?
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He is proven in the sense that we know he is a starting quality player.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I agree we need a backup PF since I doubt the Jazz want JJ to fill that role too much in the regular season because he will wear down too much. But I could be wrong, they might be thinking that is his spot now. Either way we need to pick up a cheap backup PF but there are still some left that will do just fine. Although I am still hoping we go after Mirotic.

Also a 2nd round pick is not useful in filling the PF spot.

But we still have Favors, JJ, Bolomboy and Diaw that are PFs. We also have Ingles who can play some there.
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Should maybe keep Eric griffin too
 
Ron Mexico said:
I think that is reasonable. I do think he could have done more but I am not sure it would have helped. There were still attainable players that might have convinced him to stay. I give him an F if Hayward actually requested a trade last off season and they held on to him. The Jazz sound like they were pretty confident in re-signing Hayward. I wonder what Hayward said to them and what they knew. Some people claim to know he was leaving but those might have been pure guesses that just happened to be right. Based on what the Jazz did with Hayward they must have thought they had the best chance of signing him over any other team.
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What more could he have done? Please specify. Did you read the drivel Gordon wrote about Stevens? The two are in love with each other. There is ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, that could have kept those lovers apart.

And even IF Hayward had said "trade me to Boston" last summer, what would Ainge have given Utah? Maybe a 2nd round pick? He knew he could get Hayward for free this summer. Why give up assets? And can you imagine the outrage by fans? And criticism on this board? The same posters who are slamming DL now, would have picked him apart for not giving Gordon a chance to decide. For not allowing a playoff run to turn his heart to Utah. And for getting a terrible return on a trade. DL was in a no-win situation.

Maybe the only thing DL didn't know was the depth of the Stevens/Hayward emotional bond. And he may not have known Gordon had zero respect for his current teammates. Ingles was supposedly his best friend. The team was supposedly very close. Yet Hayward only mentions Jeremy Evans in his manifesto? It's no wonder Ainge likes Hayward. They're two of the coldest men on the planet.
 
Shad said:
If Colin gave the Celtics a D then no doubt we get an F. We lost 40+ ppg in agency for 10 points per game so far. AND WE ALREADY WERE ONE OF THE LOWEST SCORING TEAMS IN THE NBA LOL
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We were lose scoring because of pace, not because of offensive inability. Point per possession-wise, we were 12th best.
 
Of course we get an F. Jazz lost their 1st or 2nd best player (depending on what you value). Not sure you can say 40 pts/game. Hill only played in 1/2 of our games, so discount that stat.

Jazz take a huge hit this season. Hayward made sure free agency was essentially over before he made his announcement. And I say "announcement" because it was very evident as he was giving his final interviews after the GS loss, that he was done with the Jazz. Those who failed to see it are just very naive. NO ONE who intends to stay with their teams uses the phrases that he did, the complete noncommittal tone he used. Not once, even a "hope to return" comment.

So "F" this season. But DL isn't a quitter. He'll go back to the drawing board with Quin. They'll evaluate some key items this season (like Exum and Hood) and target potential trades at the deadline or trades/FA's next summer.
 
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