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Re-sign Kanter or sign Draymond Green?

Kanter or Green

  • Kanter

    Votes: 25 62.5%

  • Green

    Votes: 14 35.0%

  • Neither

    Votes: 1 2.5%
  • Total voters
    40
ONE LOVE said:
So he'll be demanding a big payday? If he is indeed a 4 primarily then I don't know if I'll be paying too much for him, since Gobert/Favors is such a promising duo going forward.


If he is a 3 then may be look to pair him with Hayward, but is he proven at the 3 spot? Jury's still out right?
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I honestly don't know how often Green defends 3's. Barnes too plays some 4 in their small ball lineup so Green may defend 3's often. I'm really not sure. I'd guess that Kerr puts him on whoever he feels is the better offensive player, entrusting Green and his iq and tenacity can do a good job.
 
ONE LOVE said:
So he'll be demanding a big payday? If he is indeed a 4 primarily then I don't know if I'll be paying too much for him, since Gobert/Favors is such a promising duo going forward.


If he is a 3 then may be look to pair him with Hayward, but is he proven at the 3 spot? Jury's still out right?
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He would get beat on the perimeter at SF, physically he's an Anthony Bennett clone but less athletic. With Favors and Gobert in the paint maybe you look past that though and try to make him a SF.
 
So to even have a chance at Green, we have to a) offer to overpay him by a substantial amount; b) renounce Kanter and our exceptions to get under the cap so he can sign the offer sheet; c) hope GS doesn't match. And then if they do, it's likely Enes has already negotiated a deal to go elsewhere or simply doesn't want to then return to Utah since we showed so much faith in him by not retaining his rights. This has a ZERO chance of happening.
 
Stifle Tower said:
So to even have a chance at Green, we have to a) offer to overpay him by a substantial amount; b) renounce Kanter and our exceptions to get under the cap so he can sign the offer sheet; c) hope GS doesn't match. And then if they do, it's likely Enes has already negotiated a deal to go elsewhere or simply doesn't want to then return to Utah since we showed so much faith in him by not retaining his rights. This has a ZERO chance of happening.
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This is my feeling as well. There are just too many unknowns with Green. Can he play SF (doubtful)? What would his shooting numbers look like without the best shooting backcourt of Curry and Thompson drawing all the attention? Jarret Jack's TS% dropped from 54.2% to 49.8% after leaving GS. Jack's PER dropped from 15.9 (starter quality) to 11.5 (scrub) the next year.
 
Stifle Tower said:
So to even have a chance at Green, we have to a) offer to overpay him by a substantial amount; b) renounce Kanter and our exceptions to get under the cap so he can sign the offer sheet; c) hope GS doesn't match. And then if they do, it's likely Enes has already negotiated a deal to go elsewhere or simply doesn't want to then return to Utah since we showed so much faith in him by not retaining his rights. This has a ZERO chance of happening.
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That's the only valid point on why we shouldn't try and sign him


But maybe DL could have a private conversation with his agent and see if he would be interested in signing here. Maybe Golden State would hesitate to match a max deal.


I think the Jazz at least have to keep it as an option.
 
Jazz4ever said:
This is my feeling as well. There are just too many unknowns with Green. Can he play SF (doubtful)? What would his shooting numbers look like without the best shooting backcourt of Curry and Thompson drawing all the attention? Jarret Jack's TS% dropped from 54.2% to 49.8% after leaving GS. Jack's PER dropped from 15.9 (starter quality) to 11.5 (scrub) the next year.
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Posts like this reminds of posts that doubted Harden and Bledsoe and whether or not we should have traded for them


He's really good. That's all you need to know. Get your mind off whether or not he is a 3 or 4. His defensive abilities are undeniable. Would you like some more defense on the Jazz? I sure would. You can't win a championship if you can't play defense.
 
Yeah, not interested in overpaying Green when we have our stud starting power forward at 12 million per.
 
Hack said:
Posts like this reminds of posts that doubted Harden and Bledsoe and whether or not we should have traded for them


He's really good. That's all you need to know. Get your mind off whether or not he is a 3 or 4. His defensive abilities are undeniable. Would you like some more defense on the Jazz? I sure would. You can't win a championship if you can't play defense.
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It's just not a realistic option. We probably have a better chance of winning the lottery from the 12th spot.
 
Stifle Tower said:
So to even have a chance at Green, we have to a) offer to overpay him by a substantial amount; b) renounce Kanter and our exceptions to get under the cap so he can sign the offer sheet; c) hope GS doesn't match. And then if they do, it's likely Enes has already negotiated a deal to go elsewhere or simply doesn't want to then return to Utah since we showed so much faith in him by not retaining his rights. This has a ZERO chance of happening.
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This... You guys may as well discuss getting KD in free agency, cuz we ain't getting green. If you are going to dream then dream bigger than draymond.

I do think they'll have to either trade iggy or give up assets to move David Lee so that they can clear enough room to sign him. We could get involve in either of those deals.
 
Did you guys see the tmz video of Draymond throwing food at Seahawks fans in the Seahawks stadium after they beat Carolina? Classy guy. Nope, never gonna be a jazzman.
 
mellow said:
Did you guys see the tmz video of Draymond throwing food at Seahawks fans in the Seahawks stadium after they beat Carolina? Classy guy. Nope, never gonna be a jazzman.
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Meh. A ton of drunk fans were being huge douches toward Curry and his mom. Green threw some food on them. OH NO!!!!!! And the douche with the camera screams "We have you on camera," or whatever the hell he said. Douches trying to incite should've gotten way worse.
 
Max Hall thinks it was pretty classless for drunk Seattle fans to celebrate a Seattle victory in the Seattle stadium. But he is glad Currys mom didn't get any beer on her during the episode. Maybe Max's mom and Curry's mom can sit next to each other at the ESA.

Personally, I can't believe the fans didn't like getting yelled at and having food thrown at them by people in the luxury suite. I thought alcohol was supposed to have a calming effect.
 
Max Hall thinks it was pretty classless for drunk Seattle fans to celebrate a Seattle victory in the Seattle stadium. But he is glad Currys mom didn't get any beer on her during the episode. Maybe Max's mom and Curry's mom can sit next to each other at the ESA.

Personally, I can't believe the fans didn't like getting yelled at and having food thrown at them by people in the luxury suite. I thought alcohol was supposed to have a calming effect.

I can't picture Enes throwing food at Seattle fans, maybe Ohio State fans, but really who could blame him for that?
 
mellow said:
Max Hall thinks it was pretty classless for drunk Seattle fans to celebrate a Seattle victory in the Seattle stadium. But he is glad Currys mom didn't get any beer on her during the episode. Maybe Max's mom and Curry's mom can sit next to each other at the ESA.

Personally, I can't believe the fans didn't like getting yelled at and having food thrown at them by people in the luxury suite. I thought alcohol was supposed to have a calming effect.

I can't picture Enes throwing food at Seattle fans, maybe Ohio State fans, but really who could blame him for that?
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Do you want a championship or a a bunch of nice guys on a team?

There has to be a certain level of nasty we NEED on this team. Or if anything, at least tolerate it.


I don't think that is enough to close the door on Draymond Green.
 
I think Rudy is nasty. Can a person be nasty without throwing food?

Years ago I had a tshirt, printed on the back were these words: in the End, Nice Guys Won't finish last. That was a stupid shirt. Some not-nice guys probably invented that saying as a way to placate some of the competition, and make a Pile of money.

Maybe I should make a tshirt that is more reflective of my life's experiences....
"Nice guys get it in the End, everyday."

Do you think I could make a pile of cash with it? Maybe if I put a picture of Enes on the front?
 
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