What the ****. Really? His stamina issues were so bad that he was looking for a cause?
Realistic expectations for Exum, our future star
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What the ****. Really? His stamina issues were so bad that he was looking for a cause?
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Something that Trey should be doing, as well, instead of trying to play hero ball.
b_line
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You guys are all remembering kobes first year wrong. He sucked for a while. He didn't score twenty points until like the 25th game. He averaged 7 ppg for his rookie season and played only 16 minutes a game. Dante is shooting poorly, but as far as the first part of the season goes, his rookie campaign is not far off from kobes. That is not saying a lot though.
Jazz Insider
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how many ppl believe dante will be the next kobe. please stand up and be heard.
Douchebag K
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actually neither you presumptuous tool
kobe was stuck behind Eddie Jones his first few years yes ?
Stifle Tower
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Exum gonna be better because he was picked #5. Kobe was picked #13.
JK. That 1996 draft was SICK! And we know why Kobe dropped.
Just look at the top 7 picks:
Iverson, Camby, Abdur-Rahim, Marbury, Allen, Antoine Walker, Lorenzen Wright. And then later on Kobe, Stojakovic, Nash, J. O'Neal, Ilgauskas.
The Jazz? They took (and traded) the immortal Martin Muursepp a pick after the Lakers selected Derek Fisher. Kind of like taking Burks a pick after GSW selects Klay Thompson. Well not really, Alec is at least a pretty good player. Of course, true to their nature, Jazz found a pretty good player in the 2nd round (Shandon Anderson).
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Stifle Tower
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Oops, egg on my face. Thanks for correcting. So a 5th pick should be >>>> better than a 13th, right?
b_line
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Exactly, but not as good as a fourth pick.
Just waiting for kanter and favors to show that third pick dominance.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Don't forget Trey at #9 (that is correct, right?). He's already halfway to Kobe-land as he has the high shot total/low percentage down to an art form. All he needs is the refs to give him 16 FT's/per game and he'll be there!
On the other hand, if "our future star" improves his numbers going forward this season, he will compare favorably to players like Sebastian Telfair and Shaun Livingston.
https://bkref.com/tiny/CKYDx
They've given him 24 FTAs already this season, so he is clearly on his way to stardom.
JoelHodgeJr
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I have to agree his Dev. I think Penny is the best comparison that we can have at the moment. 6'6" pass first point with a great first step. Now I would chance saying that Dante has potentially a higher ceiling then Penny. Dante has court vision that you just dont find with players his age. His passing ability is going to be what sepperates him from the rest of his peers.
Also Dante seems to be far more focused on the defensive end then Penny ever was. I also like what I see from him on the boards. Although a string bean has more girth to it then what Dante has on his frame he still finds away to battle for a few boards every game.
Once he growns into his frame we could see a legit stat line like: 16ppg, 11ast, 6rbds, 2stls, 1blk. I dont expect Dante to ever become a legit scoring threat like Kobe but a pass first point gaurd that keeps his defender honest and the rest of the team worried about getting punked with a magician like pass.
I see All-Star potential in Dante and I like the way that the Jazz are easying him into the league. He is not physicaly ready to play 25+ mins. The last thing we want is a major injury to occur that takes away some of his natural athletic gifts like what happened to Penny because of a lack of muscle mass to protect him.
Also Dante seems to be far more focused on the defensive end then Penny ever was. I also like what I see from him on the boards. Although a string bean has more girth to it then what Dante has on his frame he still finds away to battle for a few boards every game.
Once he growns into his frame we could see a legit stat line like: 16ppg, 11ast, 6rbds, 2stls, 1blk. I dont expect Dante to ever become a legit scoring threat like Kobe but a pass first point gaurd that keeps his defender honest and the rest of the team worried about getting punked with a magician like pass.
I see All-Star potential in Dante and I like the way that the Jazz are easying him into the league. He is not physicaly ready to play 25+ mins. The last thing we want is a major injury to occur that takes away some of his natural athletic gifts like what happened to Penny because of a lack of muscle mass to protect him.
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Stifle Tower
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Don't see the 11 assists. Quin's offense relies on ball movement, not one guy running the offense. 11 assists would lead the entire league. I'd be happy with Exum at 14/7/4 on the offensive end and being a stud defender on the other end.
Don't see the 11 assists. Quin's offense relies on ball movement, not one guy running the offense. 11 assists would lead the entire league. I'd be happy with Exum at 14/7/4 on the offensive end and being a stud defender on the other end.
Lakers_Slapper
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Somewhat, Kobe was also stuck being a 19 year old in the NBA just like Exum. The let Jones run the offense giving Kobe time to watch, learn, play, develop, make mistakes, learn from mistakes etc. It was the perfect set up for a 19 year old Kobe Bryant coming into the NBA.
Lakers_Slapper
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Most NBA players spend 3 years in college before entering the NBA. They come in the league at 21-22 years old and their only basketball experience is playing against other college kids and 90+% of them are not even good enough for the NBA. Exum is skipping the college ball and will be spending his learning years playing against a 10-12 man roster of NBA players. In the NBA at 19 years old, everybody's got game. By the time he is 22 years old he is going to be very advanced already clocking 3 years of minutes against the greatest players in the world. Not every young NBA player makes it out with success, but Exum has a very good chance of being a very good PG in this league. He is already showing a good outcome at his very young age. You can't expect a 19 year olds numbers to be up there with the elite rookies. He's getting 5-7 ppg, and most importantly, his turnovers are very low considering his inexperience. AGAIN 19 years old.
Enough with this excuse. Here is every 19-and-under player-season dating back to 1990:
https://bkref.com/tiny/2snRU
Xavier Henry, Dorell Wright, and Rashard Lewis are the best of the worst down at the bottom of the list... with Exum.
freakazoid
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Not worried about the numbers in the least. There's lots of variables here. I've seen a combination of length and quickness that just doesn't come around very often, and flashes of brilliance that suggest he could become an incredibly special player. Obviously there's no guarantee he'll develop to his full potential, but he's exactly the kind of player you gamble on at #5. I'm still completely tickled that he not only fell to us, but that we were willing to swing for the fences rather than settling for the Chris Humphries and Kirk Snyders of the world, just because they seem like the safe pick. ****ing GREAT pick.