jazzfan1132
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hear that trade include J.Jack, nice backup PG we need that position.
But risk is sky high who knows who Wiggins or Jabari will be???
But risk is sky high who knows who Wiggins or Jabari will be???
Report: #5, Favors, Burks for Cavs' #1 pick
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Stifle Tower
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A backup getting paid $6M+. Overpaid. Yes, he can provide minutes, but that contract is bad. No matter how they pitch him as a player, Lindsey should be saying "salary dump, salary dump."
How do you figure? Favors is more than used to trade rumors with his name. Plus his agent knows that trade rumors are a very frequent and normal part of the business. Favors won't be bothered at all.
Possible that the Jazz tank again.
jope
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both of those guys were leveraging their way out of town, and both teams would just rather take what they got than nothing. the negotiation process was undoubtedly not in their favor, teams knew they were desperate.
Bawse Dawg
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Everyone saying no, please delete account.
Fishsticks
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Number one picks are never cheap. That's just the reality. Shoot even last year The worst draft ever, Cleveland would not move the pick though they reportedly had a lot of offers. Favors is a hefty price and Cleveland would be really stupid not to take a deal for favors burks and number 5. Anything more is just greedy.
Stifle Tower
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Deron trade was a complete surprise. He had another year + to go. There was no need to pull the trigger when they did. Agree with you on Carmelo.
AS for Cleveland, they're the ones under the gun. They honestly believe they have a chance at getting Lebron to return if they can assemble a roster. They tried and failed with Hawes as their 5. Stern/Silver has given them the chance 3x to get another star. While Favors isn't a "star," he's a damn good player to have in the middle, especially if you don't need him to score. Add to that the #5 pick. Cleveland HAS to get this deal done. And trading with Utah might be the only way for them to dump Jack in advance of when free agency talks begin. They can present their MAX offer to LBJ with a great group to put around him, plus a couple of solid players off the bench. LBJ never had the depth in Miami.
Irving
Waiters
LBJ
Varejao/Favors
Favors/Thompson
(or start Favors & Thompson with Varejao off the bench)
+Exum, Smart or Gordon off the bench. That's a helluva team.
June 24, 2014 UpdatesEmbiid, according to a source, is not under strong consideration here (Utah). Sports Illustrated
That plus earlier indications that Utah does not want the #5 pick. I think Thursday is going to be a wild ride. Possibly a very short one, but wild.
That plus earlier indications that Utah does not want the #5 pick. I think Thursday is going to be a wild ride. Possibly a very short one, but wild.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Yep, I'd miss Burks as well.
I say the Cavs meet the Jazz halfway on this.
The accepted price: Favors, the #5 and a top-3 protected pick next season, no protection in 2016. I think the Jazz finish somewhere in the 8-12 range next year. Burks has that kind of value.
Have to remember we are giving the Cavs cap relief by taking on Jacks' $6M salary for the next three years.
I say the Cavs meet the Jazz halfway on this.
The accepted price: Favors, the #5 and a top-3 protected pick next season, no protection in 2016. I think the Jazz finish somewhere in the 8-12 range next year. Burks has that kind of value.
Have to remember we are giving the Cavs cap relief by taking on Jacks' $6M salary for the next three years.
Litany
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LjJazzman
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Thats a you problem. Works just fine for me.
Jack is a nice pick up to mentor Trey and is probably still better than a few starting point guards in the league so I really would not be bothered by his contract.
I just wonder how much less we would have to give up to the Bucks to get the #2 spot instead of the Cavs for #1. Jabari or Wiggins would still be there and the cost difference could be significant. Maybe the Bucks @#2 would accept #5, #23, Burks, and next year's top 3 protected pick to just drop 3 spots. Maybe.
He had the remainder of that season, then a season after that that everyone was pretty sure was going to be locked out, then an opt-out and the Jazz were up against the trade deadline. They were looking at Deron possibly walking for nothing, flat-out, if they didn't make a move right then.
Deron Williams
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I also think this is way too much to give up for Jabari or Wiggins. That said, the one advantage they'd have over Carmelo when NYK traded for him is that if they become legitimate stars they'd still be on their rookie deals and hence vastly underpaid relative to their production.
I'd happily do Favors + 5 for Sanders + 2. There is at least some statistical evidence that Sanders, despite his possible insanity, does have a large measurable impact on team defense. I'm not sure the same can be said of Favors at this point.
I'd happily do Favors + 5 for Sanders + 2. There is at least some statistical evidence that Sanders, despite his possible insanity, does have a large measurable impact on team defense. I'm not sure the same can be said of Favors at this point.
Bawse Dawg
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This is worse than the proposed trade with Cleveland....
Always good to get a fresh prospective.