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also franklin the first 2 steps of AA (the only treatmen to alcholism)
1.We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.(weak cant do anything about)
2.Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.(again weak and powerless)

so franklin i demand you take away all the neg rep you gave me about alcholism

It wasn't me homer. Someone gave you the neg rep, you followed on with your multi-page rant, and then I responded.

I hope you are not confusing my comment with Dutch's. I was simply pointing out that alcoholism is within the realm of controllable diseases. Of course environtmental factors play into it, but just for the sake of separating the two, alcoholism is completely avoidable (possible) but often the environment makes it very difficult to avoid (probable). In all cases it is possible to avoid it, in many cases it is not very probable to avoid it. Like I said, it is an issue for some of my family members. One of them I feel is playing the "excuse" card when he brings it up as a disease, but others are trying to fight it and often losing the fight. No doubt it is destructive and dangerous, but it is not the same as many other diseases in the regard that it is completely avoidable.

As far as the bold above, do not put words in my mouth. I never brought up upbringing in any way shape or form. I simply pointed out that if you never drink, you will never be an alcoholic. That is a simple fact. I do not know why you equated that to something holy or to self-righteousness about upbringing, but I never said it so don't insunuate it for me.

Obviously labeling something a disease doesn't give those who have it an automatic excuse card. However, understanding there can be more to alcoholism than simply a frame of mind can help us give compassion to those who are a little more deserving of it than those who aren't genetically predisposed. People (like Dutch) tend to think those with chemical issues are simply week minded. That's a pretty self-righteous and judgmental attitude to take for someone who has no way of understanding what the afflicted person is going through.

My personal opinion is that most alcoholics choose to be alcoholics and are being weak minded in not controlling it.
 
To get back on track...

The unsigned negreps continue. It cracks me up especially when they get caught with their own wording. Take the following examples:

Thread: CJ Miles is the man!
congrats your the new rainhut. <-- should be "you're" not "your", just fyi.

Then in the same thread this negrep came from is this:

Originally Posted by gregbroncs
I've never said he doesn't. CJ is a role player and good and bad nights come with the territory. But it's irritating that guys like rainhut err I mean Loggrad come in and bash him every single time the team plays. I missed the end of this game and admit I made my post strictly based on box score. But the post I responded to also made their entire bashing about box score.

I wonder who the unsigned negrep could be from? Top notch coward there. Not very bright though.
 
To get back on track...

The unsigned negreps continue. It cracks me up especially when they get caught with their own wording. Take the following examples:

Thread: CJ Miles is the man!
congrats your the new rainhut. <-- should be "you're" not "your", just fyi.

Then in the same thread this negrep came from is this:

Originally Posted by gregbroncs
I've never said he doesn't. CJ is a role player and good and bad nights come with the territory. But it's irritating that guys like rainhut err I mean Loggrad come in and bash him every single time the team plays. I missed the end of this game and admit I made my post strictly based on box score. But the post I responded to also made their entire bashing about box score.

I wonder who the unsigned negrep could be from? Top notch coward there. Not very bright though.

I like gregbroncs, but it is kind of funny how after all these years of us making fun of him, he refuses to learn how to spell ''you're".
 
To get back on track...

The unsigned negreps continue. It cracks me up especially when they get caught with their own wording. Take the following examples:

Thread: CJ Miles is the man!
congrats your the new rainhut. <-- should be "you're" not "your", just fyi.

Then in the same thread this negrep came from is this:

Originally Posted by gregbroncs
I've never said he doesn't. CJ is a role player and good and bad nights come with the territory. But it's irritating that guys like rainhut err I mean Loggrad come in and bash him every single time the team plays. I missed the end of this game and admit I made my post strictly based on box score. But the post I responded to also made their entire bashing about box score.

I wonder who the unsigned negrep could be from? Top notch coward there. Not very bright though.

No point in signing it when I give the neg rep after making it obvious it was from me. But good job figuring it out and giving me neg rep back just because you got neg rep. Good job Einstein.

I sign most all of my neg rep, But don't give it that often. When I don't sign I either forget or figure it's obvious. Like in this case where I gave you the neg rep right after making that particular post.

Also FWIW not once has a neg rep come signed to me until your little revenge rep.
 
I like gregbroncs, but it is kind of funny how after all these years of us making fun of him, he refuses to learn how to spell ''you're".

Nobodies ever made fun of me for it. If they did I would just do it more to bother them. I did get neg rep for it once, Was that from you?

FWIW "your" types faster and I automatically type that no matter what kind of your, you're or other similar words that are that way. I could go back reread and edit them but it's just not worth it to me for a massage board.
 
No point in signing it when I give the neg rep after making it obvious it was from me. But good job figuring it out and giving me neg rep back just because you got neg rep. Good job Einstein.

I sign most all of my neg rep, But don't give it that often. When I don't sign I either forget or figure it's obvious. Like in this case where I gave you the neg rep right after making that particular post.

Also FWIW not once has a neg rep come signed to me until your little revenge rep.

Nice try at saving face. Didn't quite get there but you get, oh a B for effort.
 
Nobodies ever made fun of me for it. If they did I would just do it more to bother them. I did get neg rep for it once, Was that from you?

FWIW "your" types faster and I automatically type that no matter what kind of your, you're or other similar words that are that way. I could go back reread and edit them but it's just not worth it to me for a massage board.

Ah, back in times of your, before the internet, people knew and were expected to know the differences of homophones.
 
hilarious but you are hoarding the rep

I find this neg rep baffling. Should I feel complimented, scorned, bemused? Does anyone else have instances of someone complimenting their posts in a neg rep?
 
My favorite part about the accusation that I'm "hoarding the rep" is the belief that they know how much rep I give out and that there is some finite amount of rep to pass around. I've purposely given people postive rep in this thread just to "restock" posters when they get bogus neg rep.
 
... I've purposely given people postive rep in this thread just to "restock" posters when they get bogus neg rep.

like me!

But seriously, seems everyone feels that most of the negative rep they receive is bogus, whether or not it's signed. I'm not sure the same can be said about positive rep though :wink:

And while I can't come up with anything specific, I have received both positive and negative rep with comments that say something like "good post but I still don't like you"
 
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