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I was not trying to belittle your preference for a quiet beach. For me it would depend on where I am going, why and who I am taking with me.

Nor was I. I consider an occasional trip to San Diego a necessity in life, where I enjoy Imperial Beach or Coronado Island on a cold winter day. . . . as a relief from inversions.

And, speaking purely objectively, I have no question about why Great Salt Lake Beaches just don't have much action. Bugs, gnats, seagull poop, and general stink. In the Philippines there are a few resorts sporting pristine beaches, but mostly people are just trying to put together a bowl of rice and some fish with maybe some veggies. . . .long strands of pristine beach with an occasional fisherman in a little boat, with a net. But they do that mostly at night. Seventy degrees is sweater weather, maybe rainslicker weather. Average low temp in the high seventies near the sea. . . . highs in the dry season around ninety, but with enough humidity to make shade the main thing.
 
Even Obama's top advisor, David Axelrod, endorses Romney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xFUYhN3ikxI


Wrong take here. Romney will stay the course with the Bush Budget concept: Bailouts for the pick of the litter corporates, BS for the rest of us.

If you actually understood who Romney really is, you'd know this guy is endorsing Ron Paul.
 
Wrong take here. Romney will stay the course with the Bush Budget concept: Bailouts for the pick of the litter corporates, BS for the rest of us.

If you actually understood who Romney really is, you'd know this guy is endorsing Ron Paul.

I'd be shocked if Obama and his ilk even know who Paul is...

Voting for Paul this Nov is voting for Obama. If you're good with another 4 years of Marxism, great. If you want to see some sort of a recovery, swallow your pride and toss some love Romney's way.
 
I'd be shocked if Obama and his ilk even know who Paul is...

Voting for Paul this Nov is voting for Obama. If you're good with another 4 years of Marxism, great. If you want to see some sort of a recovery, swallow your pride and toss some love Romney's way.

Paul won't be running in November unless he gets the Republican nomination.

Real Marxists won't acknowledge Obama as one of their kind, Obama is a "State Socialist", a brand with close kinship to a lot of fascists/globalists. Well, actually, Obama isn't anything but a tool in a suit. Karl Marx was a bought and paid-for hack dependent on British manipulators for his bread and press. He was paid to write and speak his variety of politics by folks who wanted to slip in a sort of ideological deception/substitute to displace American principles of liberty and human rights, meant to contain the vile virus of government of the people, by the people and for the people. The communist movement has always been a sort of puppet play used to divide the people around the world.

So the managers of our herd are riding around yelling this and that, causing us to fear one thing, then another. . . . while getting us to run their way no matter who is "President". . . . . means you're a victim of their methods. Your thinking is the thinking of a cow. You have no principle but fear.

You resist the truth that Obama and Romney are figureheads in a good cop/bad cop play against the very roots of nation, on a course that is dismantling the US Constitutional form of government.

There is a chance Romney will lose to Obama in November. . . . but what is worse is that with those two choices, we will all lose in November no matter which candidate wins. If you value your human rights, you will vote against both of them. Any vote for either of them is a vote to continue to disregard the United States Constitution.

I'm not particularly fearful of Obama. When the government is bent on evil, it's best to have incompetents doing it. If we keep Obama, and keep the Senate/House on another story line, maybe we can keep the government from ruining us entirely.

A lot of people might believe Romney can manage our economy or our finances better, but since the program of management that he advocates is actually evil, it is actually worse for us to let him do it. Our rich/poor divide will continue to increase, none of our problems will actually be fixed, our military adventurism will go on and continue to alienate the people around the world.

If we want other peoples to admire us, we should choose to live by the eternal principles of human liberty. In simple terms, that means we should take our government back from the Romney/Obama tools and their managers.
 
I'll rep this post.
I'd be lying if I said I didn't get on my high horse and talk **** around here.

I think the best way to avoid the oft-cited problems with political, economic, aesthetic, etc. debates is to try to engage with ideas in a way that is agnostic about any ideological preconceptions. Get into the stream of how those ideas and sensations are constructed; try to understand your interlocutors' experience of them rather than quickly closing them off with a meaning. Difficult? Yes.

I certainly get on my high horse as well. I regret coming into this forum guns blazing and acting like a dickweed at times. I get very annoyed at how people personalize politics all the time, yet find myself as guilty as the next. I have to keep telling myself that just because someone sees things very differently than I do, it doesn't mean they are morons, or whatever epithet one chooses, yet it's so easy to fall into this trap.

Politics is the great poisoner. It's ruined my relationship with much of my family. I can't stand going home to visit, as my loud mouth tea bagger family constantly throw their politics into my face and have no recognition of boundaries. Since I know that if I say anything back, it'll ruin what peace exists, and since they never know when to stop, I suffer in silence for the sake of family harmony. Perhaps I saw some people here as proxies for certain family members and vent my frustration on them. In any case, water under the bridge. I'll try to be respectful from now on and ask same in return.
 
I certainly get on my high horse as well. I regret coming into this forum guns blazing and acting like a dickweed at times. I get very annoyed at how people personalize politics all the time, yet find myself as guilty as the next. I have to keep telling myself that just because someone sees things very differently than I do, it doesn't mean they are morons, or whatever epithet one chooses, yet it's so easy to fall into this trap.

Politics is the great poisoner. It's ruined my relationship with much of my family. I can't stand going home to visit, as my loud mouth tea bagger family constantly throw their politics into my face and have no recognition of boundaries. Since I know that if I say anything back, it'll ruin what peace exists, and since they never know when to stop, I suffer in silence for the sake of family harmony. Perhaps I saw some people here as proxies for certain family members and vent my frustration on them. In any case, water under the bridge. I'll try to be respectful from now on and ask same in return.

Interesting.

I have the same issue with my in-laws. I used to enjoy the playful banter back and forth, but once I heard my MIL say that she wished someone would actually assassinate Obama, that **** got real. I have to just sit and take it now, because I refuse to get into any kind of argument with people like that. Maybe I'm the dick face, which is why I'll just stay to myself instead of proving it.
 
So, believe it or not, I used to work for very influential liberal/democrat folks, and I smiled a lot. They thought I was nice.

Sorry you guys have to take all the spleen I kept bottled up all those years. . . .
 
So, believe it or not, I used to work for very influential liberal/democrat folks, and I smiled a lot. They thought I was nice.

Sorry you guys have to take all the spleen I kept bottled up all those years. . . .

So, seriously, who haven't you worked for? Are you 170 years old?
 
So, seriously, who haven't you worked for? Are you 170 years old?

Well, considering I worked for HE Eyring for 12 years, mostly concurrent with keeping books for. . . . well, the democrat I babble about sometimes. . . . and running on from there, doing what amounts to about three jobs at a time, and some of that of the "consulting" sort, where you really have to have about ten jobs going all at once to make ends meet. . . . , besides more or less being a fly on the wall usually. . .

But you know I'm really only 60. Part of it is how I managed to have a whole bunch of jobs for not very long when I was a kid, well, besides starting my first job at age 10, and never being unemployed since, on account of just being a really good ditch digger.

Well, probably more to the point, I work dirt cheap. That's what it takes to land jobs working for the highest tiers of our privileged and important folks in society nowadays. It really harks to the old movie sterotypes of the thirties and forties, vaudeville blackface schtick. If you're willing to do that, you can build up a huge repertoire of "insider" tales pretty quick. . . .

I'm probably really a scum dirtbag for airing laundry like this. I bet if ten influential bigwigs hear about this, there'll be ten poor underpaid toadies fired tomorrow under the black suspicion of being the real "babe".
 
Interesting.

I have the same issue with my in-laws. I used to enjoy the playful banter back and forth, but once I heard my MIL say that she wished someone would actually assassinate Obama, that **** got real. I have to just sit and take it now, because I refuse to get into any kind of argument with people like that. Maybe I'm the dick face, which is why I'll just stay to myself instead of proving it.

Here's are just a few examples.

My brother was visiting from out of state. He dropped by my house to visit when we were entertaining guests. He starts on a rant against Obamacare and ends up dragging my guests into an argument. He ignores my pleas to change the subject.

We are celebrating my parents' wedding anniversary at a restaurant. A couple brothers start ranting against Obamacare and liberals in general doing everything they can to bait me into an argument. Results, my mom starts crying and my father doesn't say another word the rest of the night.

I'm visiting home with my 13 year old son watching a movie with Jamie Lee Curtis in my parents' basement. My brothers begin riffing on how much they hate Curtis and other Hollywood Liberals and make fun of my political neophyte son who tries to mount a defense. Afterward, my son asks me why my brothers are such A-holes.

Every family get together turns into an "I hate Obama" and "Aren't liberals stupid" free for all.

That's just a few of many examples why I just love going home to visit these days.
 
Here's are just a few examples.

My brother was visiting from out of state. He dropped by my house to visit when we were entertaining guests. He starts on a rant against Obamacare and ends up dragging my guests into an argument. He ignores my pleas to change the subject.

We are celebrating my parents' wedding anniversary at a restaurant. A couple brothers start ranting against Obamacare and liberals in general doing everything they can to bait me into an argument. Results, my mom starts crying and my father doesn't say another word the rest of the night.

I'm visiting home with my 13 year old son watching a movie with Jamie Lee Curtis in my parents' basement. My brothers begin riffing on how much they hate Curtis and other Hollywood Liberals and make fun of my political neophyte son who tries to mount a defense. Afterward, my son asks me why my brothers are such A-holes.

Every family get together turns into an "I hate Obama" and "Aren't liberals stupid" free for all.

That's just a few of many examples why I just love going home to visit these days.

Jamie Lee Curtis lives in your parent's basement?
 
Here's are just a few examples.

My brother was visiting from out of state. He dropped by my house to visit when we were entertaining guests. He starts on a rant against Obamacare and ends up dragging my guests into an argument. He ignores my pleas to change the subject.

We are celebrating my parents' wedding anniversary at a restaurant. A couple brothers start ranting against Obamacare and liberals in general doing everything they can to bait me into an argument. Results, my mom starts crying and my father doesn't say another word the rest of the night.

I'm visiting home with my 13 year old son watching a movie with Jamie Lee Curtis in my parents' basement. My brothers begin riffing on how much they hate Curtis and other Hollywood Liberals and make fun of my political neophyte son who tries to mount a defense. Afterward, my son asks me why my brothers are such A-holes.

Every family get together turns into an "I hate Obama" and "Aren't liberals stupid" free for all.

That's just a few of many examples why I just love going home to visit these days.

I don't get why you made your mother cry???
 
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