Romney's VP Choice
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framer
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Paul Ryan was a Wicked Smart choice. He simultaineously excites both the grassroots and donors. He skates to victory in a majority Democrat district by +20 percent every year. He will dice Biden up into tiny little pieces when they debate. And those "bitter clinger" rural white Democrats that are bleeding away from Obama? They are going to like Ryan a lot. Picture Obama in his mom jeans barely able to roll a ball to home plate in comparison to this:
and here is is destroying Obama to his thinskinned face. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zPxMZ1WdINs
Hey but you go on reading your Huffington Post thinking everything is going to be all right. Your tears in November will be delicious.
Gyp Rosetti
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I have to admit, Ryan seems pretty damn sharp.
What's the evidence that Ryan can deliver Catholics? Isn't that a notoriously heterogenous demographic?
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If we're comparing him to Kindergartners. Hasn't every serious analysis of the Paul Ryan budget concluded that the Emperor simply has no clothes?
Gyp Rosetti
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No idea. I don't follow politics. I was simply saying he seems sharp.
I know, and it shows. But you insist on posting in the politics threads anyway.
Paul Ryan's budget plan is totally ridiculous. The following are assumptions in the CBO report that Ryan insisted on. To date, I have seen the Congressman or his fans advance zero evidence that any of these are remotely realistic. And this is an issue I've been following somewhat closely.
Near as I can tell his actual job is professionally appearing as a "very serious person" at all events that will give him flattering press coverage.
Gyp Rosetti
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I insisted?
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You posted, didn't you? Maybe you didn't insist, but it's a figure of speech -- you didn't insist but you did do it, despite that you admit you don't know what you're talking about. That's kind of like insisting how stupid you are in the first place.
Dumb response. Elections are about appearing to be sharp, not actually producing intelligent legislation. In that regard, Ryan will be just fine.
Well hey if your point is that he's useless for policy but has some short term political advantages that sounds like the kind of guy the GOP I know and love would embrace.
The Thriller
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I just don't see how he helps Romney.
He's a far right winger. He excites the tea party base that was already going to vote for Romney anyway.
IMO, Romney needed to appear more moderate and more minority/poor/women friendly. Rubio should have been his choice IMO.
And if you folks don't think that Ryan's plan won't be attacked by Obama then you really don't know politics. A plan that guarantees cuts to social programs while maintaining/slashing cuts for the wealthy is DEFINITELY going to be exploited bigtime. Besides... The plan is completely ridiculous anyway. It merely continues that mantra of, "government is evil government is bad privatize anything and everything."
Are Americans really for that? Are they really for more deregulation, more tax cuts, more slashing and dicing? Have Americans drunk the repub kool-aid?
I don't think so.
Wall Street deregulation will be brought up, banks "too big to fail", "rich people" playing games with folks' retirement and money, etc will remind Americans the "fruits" of deregulation.
Oh yeah, and his position on taxes to balance the budget will be exploited too. It's about as realistic as believing in the tooth fairy. It just ain't gonna work.
Ryan just doesn't help Romney. What did Romney gain yesterday? Who was going to vote for Obama who will now vote for Romney because of this choice?
He's a far right winger. He excites the tea party base that was already going to vote for Romney anyway.
IMO, Romney needed to appear more moderate and more minority/poor/women friendly. Rubio should have been his choice IMO.
And if you folks don't think that Ryan's plan won't be attacked by Obama then you really don't know politics. A plan that guarantees cuts to social programs while maintaining/slashing cuts for the wealthy is DEFINITELY going to be exploited bigtime. Besides... The plan is completely ridiculous anyway. It merely continues that mantra of, "government is evil government is bad privatize anything and everything."
Are Americans really for that? Are they really for more deregulation, more tax cuts, more slashing and dicing? Have Americans drunk the repub kool-aid?
I don't think so.
Wall Street deregulation will be brought up, banks "too big to fail", "rich people" playing games with folks' retirement and money, etc will remind Americans the "fruits" of deregulation.
Oh yeah, and his position on taxes to balance the budget will be exploited too. It's about as realistic as believing in the tooth fairy. It just ain't gonna work.
Ryan just doesn't help Romney. What did Romney gain yesterday? Who was going to vote for Obama who will now vote for Romney because of this choice?
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The Thriller
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Paul Ryan was a Wicked Smart choice. He simultaineously excites both the grassroots and donors. He skates to victory in a majority Democrat district by +20 percent every year. He will dice Biden up into tiny little pieces when they debate. And those "bitter clinger" rural white Democrats that are bleeding away from Obama? They are going to like Ryan a lot. Picture Obama in his mom jeans barely able to roll a ball to home plate in comparison to this:
and here is is destroying Obama to his thinskinned face. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zPxMZ1WdINs
Hey but you go on reading your Huffington Post thinking everything is going to be all right. Your tears in November will be delicious.
Hahaha
That's cute.
Ryan called Affordable Care Act as a "GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER" of our health system.
Perfect example of why Ryan doesn't help Romney. The right wingers (like those who have already posted) have already stated various times their positions against Obamacare. In fact, many right wingers probably consider it a "government takeover." Hence, why the adding of Ryan doesn't help their cause. You folks were going to vote for Romney anyway!
It also explains why they can't understand how so many other people (better informed)don't see it as a government takeover. It's just a foreign language to them when you explain how it's not DEATH PANELS, not a government takeover, and how Mitty, Orrin Hatch, and the Heritage Foundation were actually the greatest proponents of the individual Mandate just a few years back. It's just so foreign to them. Their eyes glaze over and they repeat, "uhhh It's unconstitutional. The Founding Fathers didn't have government provided health care... Government takeover. Obama is a Nazi..." But but but, the Heritage Foundation was for it. Mitty had it in Romneycare. "Don't tread on me. It's unconstitutional. Obama was born in Kenya..."
Perfect example of why Ryan doesn't help. What he says excites a certain segment of the population. "Obamacare??? Doggon it! I hat Obamacare! Government takover! We ned free marcket! Obama is a Nazi Muslim! Hes blak and Demiecrat! Dont tred on me! I love guns!"
But these folks would have already voted for Romney anyway.
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The Thriller
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The GOP would never do that. Especially to put someone like that in the position of VP. Any recent examples come to mind?
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You mean, where Ryan talks about how capapble the CBO is, and then says they are incompetant? Maybe he was trying to avoid laughing?
I must have missed the VP candidate that is out there somewhere who would have been free from any attacks from the Obama campaign. Romney could have selected Michelle Obama and Barack's campaign manager would instantly be all over her in a way that would put the President's honeymoon to shame. It's about perception, charm, and making the least gaffes. Not every American can find the time to be as politically savvy as your average Jazzfanz poster. (Insert barely contained snickering right about........here).
The bottom line is that the best thing that Ryan has going for him is that he'll be debating Biden, who is the charismatic equivalent of "The Thriller".
The bottom line is that the best thing that Ryan has going for him is that he'll be debating Biden, who is the charismatic equivalent of "The Thriller".
Just got off the phone with Romney's campaign manager. Mentioned that the VP choice might result in loss of votes. They said "we feel that Mr. Ryan will be the best person for the job; we did not consider election strategy at all with this choice."
Then I was transferred to Montana Ocean Front Properties, where I got a sweeeeet deal.
Then I was transferred to Montana Ocean Front Properties, where I got a sweeeeet deal.
No, it definitely was not mirth.