Rumor: Jazz prepared to match 'any offer' for Hayward.

[addictionary]

I am pretty sure that Burks has been superseded by Exum.

I don't know about that. I must wait and watch a decent amount of Exum against inside protectors NBA level. I love his ability to drive contact on layups and his pace and speed. He is so willing to compete in the air. But this is also Burks' profession and I don't think I exaggerate when I say Burks has one of the best balances in the air when he is up there against competition laying it up. He has great potential and a major part of that is waiting there to be lit by a more major role and the guy believing in himself to become something that neither he nor people around him imagined. He has a great base to build up on to become a multiple all-star.

I also might argue Favors' ceiling is higher.

Me too, but after last season, Favors had kinda hit some contract wall. He is absolutely my favorite player on the team because of his attitude. Hope he explodes more next season.

 

[TheStormofWar]

It's all posturing to keep his price "reasonable". How often do teams do this with players they want to keep? Pretty *bleep* often. The FO have an "up to" price they will pay. A bit over and they'll consider it. Ludicrously over and they won't. It's as simple as that.

 

[Doc Cherno]

It's all posturing to keep his price "reasonable". How often do teams do this with players they want to keep? Pretty *bleep* often. The FO have an "up to" price they will pay. A bit over and they'll consider it. Ludicrously over and they won't. It's as simple as that.

And I'd really surprised (though it isn't like this never happens) if another team would want to grossly over pay a player like Hayward. It essentially means they must think he's the perennial all-star that'll push them over the top. I'll be surprised if doesn't walk with a nice offer, but I think it'll be within range for the Jazz to sign and just high enough to make this board completely come unglued.

I think DL's doing a nice job of staggering talent so they don't all come due at once. Another reason I think Neto waits a year...

 

[JGolds]

Haygod is the best thing that has happened to this franchise.... you little ******* need to shut the H311 up...

Now graval before his feet.... He may still forgive you.

 

[JGolds]

BTW Just FYI because this is in the news and we are talking bout the jazz this tweet is false,
Jazz never let news slip out unless they want it to.... I think we all know it a fake tweet to create some publicity. and we are here on jazzfanz freaking out. sounds like its just that the off season and it is already getting to us.... Cant wait for the season to start already!!!

 

[BabyPeterzz]

The thing is $12m - $13m is not franchise crippling money. This is not an AK, Joe Johnson, Gilbert Arenas contract. The Jazz have one of the best, if not the best, cap situations in the league so it won't keep them from giving the real max to the right player. Really look at what Hayward brings to the table and realize with more experience he will get more consistent. He's a 16/5/5 guy who will shoot better with better teammates and a better system. The Jazz have invested a lot into his development. You match whatever and move on.

 

[Stifle Tower]

And I'd really surprised (though it isn't like this never happens) if another team would want to grossly over pay a player like Hayward. It essentially means they must think he's the perennial all-star that'll push them over the top. I'll be surprised if doesn't walk with a nice offer, but I think it'll be within range for the Jazz to sign and just high enough to make this board completely come unglued.

I think DL's doing a nice job of staggering talent so they don't all come due at once. Another reason I think Neto waits a year...

Yep. Hayward will get a lot more than many of us think he should. GM's are just going to throw away last season. It was an outlier. Gordon was being asked to do everything and the whole team was beaten down by losing and the slow plodding offense of Ty Corbin. Even with the terrible season, he's a career 44%/37% shooter who averaged 16/5/5. Not too many guards put up those kind of numbers, especially at 6'8." I have a feeling Quin is going to use Gordon a LOT differently than Corbin did. Hawyward probably won't average as many assists, not with Burke and Exum running the show, but he'll be much more efficient and the up-tempo, ball motion offense should play to his strengths.

 

[Stoked]

The thing is $12m - $13m is not franchise crippling money. This is not an AK, Joe Johnson, Gilbert Arenas contract. The Jazz have one of the best, if not the best, cap situations in the league so it won't keep them from giving the real max to the right player. Really look at what Hayward brings to the table and realize with more experience he will get more consistent. He's a 16/5/5 guy who will shoot better with better teammates and a better system. The Jazz have invested a lot into his development. You match whatever and move on.

12 million is as much as I would want to go, I'd prefer 10 though. As for the cap, well it is finally good again after shedding a bunch of bad contracts. No reason to start making new contracts that will end up bad and new cap issues.

 

[default]

There are more teams with LOTS of cap space this year than usual so I expect GH to get overpaid a bit. I suspect he gets 12 mil per year for about 4 years.

 

[CAKAR]

Haygod is the best thing that has happened to this franchise.... you little ******* need to shut the H311 up...

Now graval before his feet.... He may still forgive you.

BIG-AL is the best thing happened to this franchise. You can graval before his feet, but no mercy he will show !!!!

 

[cowhide]

I am thinking teams will be overspending this year. The Heat 3some opted out so they can stay together and add pieces in Miami. Decent chance that Melo stays in NYC. Simply put, multiple teams are clearing cap space hoping to have a shot at these guys and if they stay put, there will be money to spend. Sorting through all of the information my understanding is that the Jazz offered GH 4 years at 50M last year. I am betting they will pay more than that if they want to keep him.

Well if they are willing to pay him more than why not do it last year? I think the Jazz are taking a chance that he won't get a better offer, this might not happen but that is why I believe they let him hit FA.

 

[RCdazy]

The Phoenix Suns are expected to make Gordon Hayward a significant offer, possibly a max deal, but Utah Jazz will match, per sources.
‏@djjazzyjody

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24601221/report-suns-to-make-big-offer-to-gordon-hayward-jazz-likely-to-match

So there's that...

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Locke nails the Gordon situation in today's tipoff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E0NyuyHkcc#t=1560

 

[LjJazzman]

The thing is $12m - $13m is not franchise crippling money. This is not an AK, Joe Johnson, Gilbert Arenas contract. The Jazz have one of the best, if not the best, cap situations in the league so it won't keep them from giving the real max to the right player. Really look at what Hayward brings to the table and realize with more experience he will get more consistent. He's a 16/5/5 guy who will shoot better with better teammates and a better system. The Jazz have invested a lot into his development. You match whatever and move on.

Agreed.

The salary cap is making a big jump this year and it will continue to go up by a lot with the new national TV deals coming. I believe 13 million will become the average for the 3rd best player on a team, which is exactly what I think Hayward is.

I think we match anything short of a max deal.

 

[mfree]

Hey guys... If he were going to be happy with $12M per for four years he would have signed last year.

He wants more and is posturing for it. I believe he will get it.

Lots of Burks love here, and rightfully so. He is coming into his own and will keep getting better. However, he has one skill at which he is elite (getting to the basket and either finishing or getting fouled). Hayward is more of a well rounded, complete player and his new contract will reflect that.

I think we will be shocked at the offers he will get, and the Jazz will match. As has been said before, he is the best use of the Jazz cap space given where they are as a team right now.

 

[b_line]

In my opinion the Jazz should keep Hayward at anything but the max. Favors and Hayward are both probably well suited to be third options/third best on a championship team, and hopefully Exum will be the guy that is the superstar. Now we jsut have the problem of finding another guy who is an all star close to superstar level.

I know people think Kanter and Burks are going to be that type of player, but I just don't see it. In my mind, the future rankings of players currently on the jazz are something like this:

1. Exum
2. Favors
3. Hayward
4. Burks
5. Burke
6. Kanter
7. Hood
8. Gobert
9. Evans

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

For what it's worth, I think Hayward with thrive in a more up-tempo, spread the floor offense that I think Snyder will install. This will give him more uncontested shots and allow him space to go to the basket more, which he does well getting fouled at a high rate (though he needs to improve his finish rate). Corbin's offense (if we can call it that) required Hayward to take a large number of contested, off the dribble shots, many with time running down on the clock, which are not his strengths. I wish we had one more year to see how he performed under a better system and a better coach before having to commit to him long-term.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

I really like Hayward and think he still has room to grow, and that we haven't seen his best yet. But I am tired of being an also-ran, and locking him in at 10 mill+ long term will put a serious dent in our ability to climb out of the also-ran pits of hell.


I hope we see some strong moves this off-season.

According to Locke, this isn't the case. Getting Hayward at approx 11 million per year will not hamstring us LT, particularly if, as everyone expects, the salary cap to increase with the new TV deal. It also has to do with the timing of the other contracts, which are spaced such that it should not create a financial logjam. Locke is pretty adamant that Jazz have plenty of flexibility to sign Hayward without a Kirilenko-type blow to the salary cap and payroll/personnel flexibility.

 

[Stoked]

With the players the Jazz have (Kanter, Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Burke, Hood...) I'd love to see a PnR system with Exum as the primary ball handler. You have Hood, Burke and Hayward hitting Js of the pick while the bigs take the pass off the pick down low and get baskets at the rim.

Then you can mix it up with Burks and have a slashing attack with kick outs to Hayward and Hood.

 

[JAZZGASM]

Don't know if this has been addressed, or how it would work with the current CBA, but, can a team offer him the max and majorly backload it? If so, it may be harder for us to match.