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Somewhat intrigiung CJ Miles Offseason news

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billyshelby said:
I'm probably more optimistic since I think CJ is going to have a breakout year. My guess is he averages 33 minutes, 18 pts, 4 rebounds, and 3 assists.
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Like clockwork...

Although it's possible he gets those averages...if he's chucking 20 shots per game. Of course, in Billy Shelby's world at least, field goal percentage doesn't matter one bit.
 
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GVC said:
CJ shot less per minute on the court last year AFTER Jerry left (15.8 v. 16.9 FGA/36m). Your last sentence at least makes sense, since CJ was generally a starter after Jerry left (starting 18 of his 27 games)as opposed to a bench player before (1 start in 51 games).
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Seriously, no action on this post?
 
GVC said:
Seriously, no action on this post?
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I'm just shocked that:

a) no one mentioned CJ's drastic improvement in free throw attempts last year. He more than doubled his previous high despite playing just 1.4 more minutes than the year before.
b) no one mentioned his volume of three point attempts, bad for 26th in the league. The only guys who shot more on less minutes were Toney Douglas who has the excuse of playing in an up tempo offense, Rudy Fernandez who sucks and Ryan Anderson who at least shot 39+% from downtown. In other words, why the **** was he shooting so many ****ing threes? Perhaps our overall deficiency there with Korver gone and Memo hurt sort of demanded this from him so to speak. Or perhaps he just sucks.
 
SalmonHobo said:
I'm just shocked that:

a) no one mentioned CJ's drastic improvement in free throw attempts last year. He more than doubled his previous high despite playing just 1.4 more minutes than the year before.
b) no one mentioned his volume of three point attempts, bad for 26th in the league. The only guys who shot more on less minutes were Toney Douglas who has the excuse of playing in an up tempo offense, Rudy Fernandez who sucks and Ryan Anderson who at least shot 39+% from downtown. In other words, why the **** was he shooting so many ****ing threes? Perhaps our overall deficiency there with Korver gone and Memo hurt sort of demanded this from him so to speak. Or perhaps he just sucks.
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His free throws were a bright spot, his D improved some as well. Such small improvements in his 6th year in the league leave little hope he will ever be a quality NBA starter though. I think Burks will be better by year two.
 
GVC said:
I hadn't even read your post until after I replied to cowhide...weird.

The stats are easy to find on basketball reference. If you go to CJ's game logs, and click on the red number to the left, the site will sum stats to the game selected (represented by said number). It took about 2 minutes to look up these stats.
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Which part of "too lazy" don't you ****ing understand? Seriously though, how's that for clairvoyance?:)

P.S. Thanks
 
It's no wonder the Jazz have had such an aversion to drafting high school players. Even if the rules changed and allowed the drafting of HS players again, you can bet they would be no more encouraged at the prospect than they ever have been.
 
NUMBERICA said:
It's no wonder the Jazz have had such an aversion to drafting high school players. Even if the rules changed and allowed the drafting of HS players again, you can bet they would be no more encouraged at the prospect than they ever have been.
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NUMBERICA said:
It's no wonder the Jazz have had such an aversion to drafting high school players. Even if the rules changed and allowed the drafting of HS players again, you can bet they would be no more encouraged at the prospect than they ever have been.
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Drafting HS players seems to be about as risky as drafting Euros. Euros tend to be soft; HS players are often too immature to handle the sudden wealth.
 
GVC said:
Like clockwork...

Although it's possible he gets those averages...if he's chucking 20 shots per game. Of course, in Billy Shelby's world at least, field goal percentage doesn't matter one bit.
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When have I ever said shooting percentage doesn't matter? I look at stats just like you, we agree in principle on many of those stats, but I don't draw the same conclusions as you. I think we covered this in our Al debates. I don't think either Al or CJ are finished products. More importantly, I like their talent. I can't quantify talent, but I watch a lot of games. If I think a player has limited talent, then I'd look at a 4 year sample as being fairly indicative of what they are. I think Al and CJ have a lot of talent which, combined with their age and professional histories, makes me believe their best is yet to come.
 
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