So to recap, you first said that you do not believe that it is impossible that all brown bears could eventually die.
Yet you concede that extinction is a historical fact.
Did extinction only occur in the past and will never happen again?
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So to recap, you first said that you do not believe that it is impossible that all brown bears could eventually die.
Yet you concede that extinction is a historical fact.
Did extinction only occur in the past and will never happen again?
So your hypothesis is that things change but there is a limit on how much it can change. What evidence do you have to support this hypothesis (please no plagiarism). And do you believe that God sets this limit or is it a natural limit, determined by our DNA?
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Extinction and evolution are mutually exclusive, as hard as you are trying to put a causal relationship from one to the other. A nasty virus could cause all humanity to go extinct without a single evolved human left to take their place.
It does make sense, thanks.
It makes sense that the people who wrote the Bible included a passage that explains the reason why their book is infallible
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Let's give it a try: "Silesian created the Earth. He spoke from God as he was borne along by holy spirit"
Now we know the truth.
1. Two things that are mutually exclusive cannot coexist. What makes you believe that evolution and extinction cannot coexist?
2. A causal relationship means that A causes B or B causes A. I have not even implied that extinction causes evolution or evolution causes extinction. It is pretty obvious that a critter can evolve and not go extinct. Also pretty obvious that a critter that is "evolutionarily stable" (not evolving much) could go extinct.
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No it means they cannot occur at the same time. I fail to see how you can evolve and go extinct at the same time. It also generally colloquially refers to two events that do not necessarily depend on each other or that can occur without the other occurring. If you want to split hairs we can discuss relativity of simultaneity.
carolinajazz
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It required superior loyalty and devotion to God to testify against a close family member or friend and then to be the first to share in the execution of that one. Of course, some persons might consider this to be too severe. But was it?
What if the idolatrous relative or friend were allowed to continue living and to influence others for wrong? This would have led to very serious, yes, tragic, consequences. Prostitution, homosexuality, drunkenness and child sacrifice were among the abominable practices associated with idolatry. (1*Ki. 14:24; Jer. 19:3-5; Hos. 4:13, 14; Amos 2:8) Think how damaging to the moral fiber of the nation of Israel such degrading practices would be and what sorrow and injury they would cause. Hence, the death of the idolater would shield many from the untold suffering that his influence would surely have brought if he were permitted to continue.
Today, of course, Christians are not authorized to execute idolaters. Nevertheless, it is still true that yielding to the influence of a close family member or friend to disregard God’s law can only spell disaster.
Don't know if your Mormon or not, but surely those who are.....consider it not the best when they marry outside of there beliefs, standards and principles, no?
carolinajazz
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...simply because critters do not EVOLVE! They mate and have offspring within there "kind" but that's it! Extinction, with the exception of dinosaurs, is due to man's selfishness and greed and inability to care for the earth's environment! Agree?
carolinajazz
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....by the way, no "plagiarism" here!
To not coexist is to not exist at the same time and mutually exclusive is to not occur at the same time. If you think that is different I won't waste time arguing trivia.
Although I suspect you were being deliberately obtuse and you actually already understand this, my comments about evolution and extinction were related to the concepts not being mutually exclusive.
♪alt13
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You know how sometimes christians will say to nonchristians "Don't judge all Christians based off of your experience with a few nut jobs".
You are one of those nut jobs.
I'm conflicted. I don't approve of CJ, but love nutjobs.
Technically true. Populations evolve, individuals develop..
That's what evolutionary theory teaches. Fish produce fish, and men are a kind of fish that have adapted to live on land.
There have been five major waves of extinction prior to the existence of men. Any old-earth creationist should recognize this evidence.
Of course, but how is this a limit on evolutionary theory? A population of fish that have acquired lungs, legs, hair, arms, and large brains are still just fish, we happen to call this subgroup human, but they are still fish as well.
carolinajazz
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"Since life began on Earth, several major mass extinctions have significantly exceeded the background extinction rate. The most recent, the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event, which occurred approximately 66 million years ago (Ma), was a large-scale mass extinction of animal and plant species in a geologically short period of time."
....just what I said, Dinosaurs! What's to disagree about? Just about every thing else was the result of mismanagement of the environment!
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....say what???
What.