idestroyedthetoilet
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You think reversing a 30 year declining trend with a 20% reversal in murder rates can be apologized away or swept aside. Cute.
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You think reversing a 30 year declining trend with a 20% reversal in murder rates can be apologized away or swept aside. Cute.
Alfalfa
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I think he's making a point about uncritical use of statistics.
Zombie
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By willfully misusing them to support his position?
That's giving him a lot of credit I think.
idestroyedthetoilet
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Funny you ask. I dont have every year memorized so I looked it up. It just so happened that Obama initially followed the trend downward, until he was a lame duck. Then he went against what Congress told him was a bad idea and used executive orders to screw up our justice system. Criminals knew they could get away with it so they started raping and murdering and pillaging. That all stopped when Trump got in office because they knew he wouldn't stand for it, just like illegal immigration declined 76%, and Russia quit invading other countries. Hell, he even got Pyongyang to play nice and open up to diplomacy.
Trump has been the president of no new wars, lower murder, the best economy ever, and less rapes. I think those are good things. Somebody should throw a party.
You've also never provided a credible link. Ever. You just expect people to believe you.
idestroyedthetoilet
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@Harambe has a hard on for demanding links. It pisses him off when I dont source everything like it's a ****ing doctoral thesis because he knows I dont post ******** but he's too dumb and lazy to google common info. It's essentially his way of pouting about facts he doesn't like and hiding from them, and having his childish gotcha moments.
Even zombie quick googled, edited his post and admitted I was right after he realized how dumb he was being.
idestroyedthetoilet
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See, this line of reasoning is just hateful and doesn't make any logical sense.
We know from recent crime trends that liberals are the ones prone to violence and conservatives the opposite. Under Obama, murder and rape and violent crime rose right. But they only rise in large, liberal cities. Crime actually decreased in the conservative, smaller areas. You know, in TrumpLand.
So if your hate formed theory were true then why didnt the crime come from conservatives when AM radio was screaming about Obama for 8 years? Hannity would scream so bad on air sometimes that I thought he would spontaneously combust. Where was the crime and violence you claim it causes? Not only was there no additional violence but it went down at a time when violence in the big liberal cities increased. Explain that or revise your theory to match reality.
And he doubles down. Let's see if it pays off.
Zombie
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I grabbed the wrong paragraph the first time. Regardless both the violent crime and murder rate decreased from when Obama came into office and when he left, again you already knew that.
Perhaps he destroyed the toilet because he was so full of ****?
seems legit. More legit than the 'facts' that blatantly stand at odds with all other reported facts.
Fake edit; purely speculation on my part.
Second fake edit; first fake edit applies to being full of ****.
Third fake edit; he's full of ****.
idestroyedthetoilet
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Rahm Emanuel, James Comey, and Ed Flynn were all wrong because you can cherry pick and misuse data? Yup, Obama abandoning police and police leaving more criminals on the streets led to less crime. Makes total sense because Trump. Get out of your ivory tower and tell it to the people living it, not to me.
candrew
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You got to put an asterisk next to that one.....I mean cameras follow Trump around everywhere now.
This is a fair question. But I'm not sure it's one the public is privvy to at this time. It does not answer your question, but I did find this:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...linton-obama-schultz-what-we-know/1759676002/
Archie Moses
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">(THREAD)<br><br>A few observations from a former bomb disposal officer (i.e. Me):<br><br>1. Proper pipe bombs don't have wires connected to both ends. That's dumb.</p>— Tom Sauer (@thomasbsauer) <a href="">October 24, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
If you click on that Tweet you can read that guy's thread. He's a former Navy EOD officer.
Zombie
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Not for nothing but judging by the rest of that guy's Twitter feed, he's full on MAGA. Not sure it's wise to take anything he says without a mountain of salt.
That said I do think these devices were either meant to scare the recipients rather than actually harm them, or the bomb maker had no idea what he was doing.
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No, see, the way it works is, you make a claim, it's your job to back that up. Not mine.
Archie Moses
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I only read his tweets about his experience being a bomb detonator. He may very well be a super Trumper, but he still knows a lot more than most people about bombs.