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That moment when Exum "got it."

I said he could become unguardable, "as he develops".
Agree. Players can only add so much to their games each summer. What of the players taken before Dante? Did they become superstars by year #2? Exam is already elite defensively. Now let's give him a few years to develop offensively. He's getting better and better; eyes dont lie. Looks like he added range; maybe his next task will be finishing at the rim or shooting off the dribble.
 
I totally respect your opinion. I readily admit you know a lot more than me about hoops overall. But watch this and then tell me he has a lot to prove. The eyes don't lie. He is sofa king good... right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy1GVX9mQKE


I'm optimistic about him. More strength and a much better handle... show me those and then I'll start salivating.
 
Exam is already elite defensively.

sigh, the definition of "elite". I think that in order to merit that distinction, you need to have done it for much much longer that Exum. He definitely shows elite potential, though. But he also makes plenty of mistakes.
 
I totally respect your opinion. I readily admit you know a lot more than me about hoops overall. But watch this and then tell me he has a lot to prove. The eyes don't lie. He is sofa king good... right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy1GVX9mQKE


Your eyes are right, Exum's good already, he was a steal at the 5th pick, he'd be good if he was on the Nets this year... He's certainly a bargain for his pay grade. His position is actually PG/SG/SF.. No reason to be cautious about it, he's fitting to blow up, it's a fait accompli,

The star potential is obviously there, and that might be putting it lightly... Teams would sacrifice a ton to get him..

this next draft has a legendary PG crop, and I;m starting to rethink how Exum stacks up vs them....... He might be on the level of the top ones (possible #1 picks)..
 
I said he could become unguardable, "as he develops".

The way you worded it made it sound like he had the shot already and he just needs to "develop it" just made it sound like he was already at a certain level with his shot, I dont think he is. His shot still looks pretty stiff off the dribble and his set shots are almost all taken without a defender within 6 feet of him. He also has a lot of variance on the arc on his shot from shot to shot.

Im in love with everything he does but his shot. I trust he can develop it, but it might always be the weakness in his game.
 
Hayward would have to be a complete imbecile to walk from this team, even if it's over a couple million dollars.
My gut tells me he will walk (money matters more to him than winning) which is why it's critical we see players like Exum, Hood, Lyles, really step up their games this season.
 
My gut tells me he will walk (money matters more to him than winning) which is why it's critical we see players like Exum, Hood, Lyles, really step up their games this season.

Why wouldn't he stay if money matters more and Jazz can pay him the most?
 
May not mean anything, but in the one game we have beaten the Dubs over the past 2 years, Exum had the highest plus minus on the team: Jazz were plus 19 in that game with Exum on the floor. Dubs were at full strength.

I don't like +\- for individual players in small samples, but it's obvious Dante's defense on Curry was a huge contributor to that blowout win.
 
Why wouldn't he stay if money matters more and Jazz can pay him the most?

This. He will stay... we will pay him the megamax and it's the right move. DL basically said this in some interview... we will back up the Brinks truck and JazzFanz will melt saying it's a terrible deal. He will then go on to shut everyone up and I will delight in telling I told you so.
 
The potential to be a tall Tony Parker w/ elite defensive ability is there. Tell me why he couldn't.

I see somebody who has the potential ability to get anywhere they want on the court. The potential to make the right decision once they have beaten their man. Yes, yes Tony may be one of the craftiest finishers of all time with a signature floater and hesitation and incredible body control and use of his body to shield defenders. This is an aspect Exum hasn't touched, but he can. The thing about Exum is he doesn't necessarily have to have the same incredible craftiness around the basket to have the same impact since he is 6'6. He can use his length to stretch out and get a high floater off the glass up.

I'm ready to be shut down, I know comparing a guy who hasn't proven anything to an all-time great is a recipe for getting burned. I'm just very optimistic about his development. I do think at worse he is a starting PG in this league.
 
In the fourth quarter of the Clippers game, Exum and Austin Rivers played the whole way through. At about 2 minutes in, Exum shuts Rivers down on a couple of consecutive possessions, then gets a little heady and starts to drive on Rivers, possibly to show him up. Everytime he gets the ball, he plays with Rivers, drawing him out so he can blow by him. At the same time, Rivers almost quits trying to do anything on his drive on the offensive end when defended by Exum. At one point Exum takes the ball high above the three point line on the left and starts fancy dribbling, seemingly calling Rivers out. Rivers goes out, Exum turns him around and goes toward the basket I believe bounce passing the assist to a cutter. It was nasty.

Seriously, it is the first time I saw any sort of chip on Exum's shoulder, and it was a beautiful thing to behold. Obviously, Exum needs to set his sites higher than Austin Rivers, but the fact that he realized that a fellow NBA player was no match for him and he could impose his will was like watching one of my children take his first baby steps. In order to succeed like we want him to succeed, he is going to need a bit of nasty. Tonight was the first time I actually saw him bring it. It was also nice to see Snyder recognize what was going on and continue to let Dante do his thing.

More please. . .

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Austin Rivers?! Oh man, I can't wait to see what he can do against DJ Augustine, Delladova, and Earl Watson. I have front row tickets to the Raymond Felton-Dante showcase. So, so, stoked.
 
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Austin Rivers?! Oh man, I can't wait to see what he can do against DJ Augustine, Delladova, and Earl Watson. I have front row tickets to the Raymond Felton-Dante showcase. So, so, stoked.

Seriously dude you are nothing but a trolling b1tch.



Nobody is saying he's close to being there yet but is certainly on his way. Stay off the train and get left behind looking like a fool in the next couple of years.
 
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Austin Rivers?! Oh man, I can't wait to see what he can do against DJ Augustine, Delladova, and Earl Watson. I have front row tickets to the Raymond Felton-Dante showcase. So, so, stoked.

I see you are still hanging out in your location and drinking that drink. Exum gonna spike that haterade and **** you up.
 
The potential to be a tall Tony Parker w/ elite defensive ability is there. Tell me why he couldn't.

I see somebody who has the potential ability to get anywhere they want on the court. The potential to make the right decision once they have beaten their man. Yes, yes Tony may be one of the craftiest finishers of all time with a signature floater and hesitation and incredible body control and use of his body to shield defenders. This is an aspect Exum hasn't touched, but he can. The thing about Exum is he doesn't necessarily have to have the same incredible craftiness around the basket to have the same impact since he is 6'6. He can use his length to stretch out and get a high floater off the glass up.

I'm ready to be shut down, I know comparing a guy who hasn't proven anything to an all-time great is a recipe for getting burned. I'm just very optimistic about his development. I do think at worse he is a starting PG in this league.

handles, bro.
 
sigh, the definition of "elite". I think that in order to merit that distinction, you need to have done it for much much longer that Exum. He definitely shows elite potential, though. But he also makes plenty of mistakes.

Ok, let's just consider where he'd rank right now among PG's. Would you consider him a top-10 defender?
 
My gut tells me he will walk (money matters more to him than winning) which is why it's critical we see players like Exum, Hood, Lyles, really step up their games this season.

In my opinion Hayward will opt out too. Anyway I would be ok if the Jazz build the team around Gobert, Hood, Exum and Lyles. Hopefully we can resign Favors too.

The Jazz did all their best to make Hayward happy, now he has to show some gratitude at least not opting out at the end of this season.
 
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Ok, let's just consider where he'd rank right now among PG's. Would you consider him a top-10 defender?

I honestly don't know. And I sort of shake my head at anybody who says Yes or No to that question based on a half-season of work over a year ago. The answer to your question is "we'll see."
 
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