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I thought this was interesting; I think this is great progress and know

She does and I have provided multiple instances that, which are in context. (Not hard to do)

Yet, when I post them, the argument is quickly changed to “But Trump”. I’m not fighting for Trump.

I’m just posting that another one of his quotes are taken out of context and used to say “That he will turn into Putin/Kim dictatorship and there won’t be any more elections in the USA”

You called me out on this:
“Does that mean that trump is going to "fix" elections to where voting doesn't matter and if so, you cool with that plan @“

His quote was taken out of context. I provided the evidence.

Yet, the argument changes to Trump he lacks depth on basic concepts. I wasn’t arguing that. At all.

You called me out on the switch:
“But you think trump knows more about topics when discussing them. Its crazy that you haven't yet realized he is an idiot who rarely knows what he is talking about”


Elon, literally posted almost the same thing I did, in more words, 9 hours later.

View: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1817349944443040004


If you consider this lacks depth, then yes he is lacking depth.

I know you aren't defending Trump per se, so this isn't necessarily directed at you, but the very fact that there is still some discussion regarding voter fraud being tied to ID laws betrays an extreme lack of depth of understanding of our voting system and a continued insistence on pushing a proven hoax and lie on the American people for the sole purpose of fear-mongering and "othering" to dehumanize entire swaths of the populace. It's loathsome.
 
... pushing a proven hoax and lie on the American people for the sole purpose of fear-mongering and "othering" to dehumanize entire swaths of the populace. It's loathsome.
You are a straight up bigot if you honestly believe what you just wrote. Ethnic background makes no difference in how hard it is to get an ID. Anyone falling for the 'requiring of voter ID is racist' narrative requires they believe this or that ethnicity is less capable. Anyone parroting that line is a bigot. full stop.

The reason the GOP is pushing voter ID is that it makes ballot harvesting impossible, and no GOP candidate can win a national election if certain key states allow ballot harvesting, which currently they do. Without a voter ID mandate, no GOP candidate can win a national election, and that has nothing to do with fraud. It is based purely on the unfortunate fact the majority of the American voter base is lazy and apathetic which leaves a massive pool of votes proactive gathering campaigns can pull from to help their candidate win an election.
 
Well….Trump ambiguous statements do lend themselves to multiple meanings. I blame Trump 100% for that, and I do believe it is often calculated and deliberate.

Various perspectives offered in this piece. I think it is well worth mentioning, that it is very true that Trump is well known by now for ambiguous statements that can be interpreted in more than one way:

“Erica De Bruin, a professor of government at Hamilton College whose research focuses on civil-military relations, civil war and policing, said, “Trump frequently makes these kinds of deliberately ambiguous statements that can be interpreted in multiple ways.”

But she added that “to understand what another Trump presidency would involve, I think it is more useful to look at his past behavior than to attempt to parse what might be the ‘true meaning’ of any individual set of remarks he makes.” She pointed out that the last time he was in office, “he attempted to subvert the outcome of an election and remain in power longer than the American public voted to keep him there.”

Also:
“Steven Levitsky, a professor of government at Harvard University, and co-author of “Tyranny of the Minority: Why American Democracy Reached the Breaking Point,” also said that while he didn’t think Trump’s recent comment was “indicative of an organized plot to end elections in the United States,” it did represent yet another sign that “the guy has got authoritarian reflexes.”

“Over the course of 10 or 15 years,” Levitsky added, a growing number of Republicans “convinced themselves that they weren’t going to be able to win elections in this new, multiracial America. I’m not so sure that’s true, but they were deeply fearful that was true. And so Trump, I think more than anything else, he senses … where they’re going and they’re feeling”.

And, absolutely this:

“Levitsky’s co-author, Daniel Ziblatt, also a professor of government at Harvard, put a finer point on the significance of Trump’s comment. “I can’t think of a major candidate for office in any democracy on Earth since at least World War II who speaks in such overtly authoritarian ways,” said Ziblatt. “Not Victor Orban in Hungary, not Recep Erdogan in Turkey. Nowhere.”

And:

Jennifer Mercieca, a communications professor at Texas A&M University and author of “Demagogue for President: The Rhetorical Genius of Donald Trump,” said in an email that she interpreted Trump’s comment as an attempt to address the “double bind” that supposed “strongmen” leaders face……

……“I think Trump is here promising Christians that he will actually solve the problems that he has promised them he’ll solve (a full abortion ban … and various ‘culture war’ issues) and so with all of the problems solved, they won’t feel like the world is so chaotic that they have to vote to save the nation.”


“It’s a big promise,” she added, “and he doesn’t give specific details here.”


As noted, I did not immediately think “he won’t leave office”, but, hey, he already tried it once!! I don’t even understand how the hell he’s even allowed to run again after trying to overthrow the government. Naw, he means it. Just put him in that Oval Office, and he’ll leave the day he dies, not one day sooner….Not ONE day sooner….
He created the biggest lie and hoax around voting in the history of the country. He encouraged his followers to attack the capital and fomented and supported the single biggest attack on our democracy the country has ever seen. Yet somehow we are supposed to believe he won't try to stay in office again? Especially now that the supreme Court has essentially handed him a get-out-of-jail-free card? How ****ing stupid do they think we all are? How stupid is anyone to believe that ****?
 
Well….Trump ambiguous statements do lend themselves to multiple meanings. I blame Trump 100% for that, and I do believe it is often calculated and deliberate.

Various perspectives offered in this piece. I think it is well worth mentioning, that it is very true that Trump is well known by now for ambiguous statements that can be interpreted in more than one way:

“Erica De Bruin, a professor of government at Hamilton College whose research focuses on civil-military relations, civil war and policing, said, “Trump frequently makes these kinds of deliberately ambiguous statements that can be interpreted in multiple ways.”

But she added that “to understand what another Trump presidency would involve, I think it is more useful to look at his past behavior than to attempt to parse what might be the ‘true meaning’ of any individual set of remarks he makes.” She pointed out that the last time he was in office, “he attempted to subvert the outcome of an election and remain in power longer than the American public voted to keep him there.”

Also:
“Steven Levitsky, a professor of government at Harvard University, and co-author of “Tyranny of the Minority: Why American Democracy Reached the Breaking Point,” also said that while he didn’t think Trump’s recent comment was “indicative of an organized plot to end elections in the United States,” it did represent yet another sign that “the guy has got authoritarian reflexes.”

“Over the course of 10 or 15 years,” Levitsky added, a growing number of Republicans “convinced themselves that they weren’t going to be able to win elections in this new, multiracial America. I’m not so sure that’s true, but they were deeply fearful that was true. And so Trump, I think more than anything else, he senses … where they’re going and they’re feeling”.

And, absolutely this:

“Levitsky’s co-author, Daniel Ziblatt, also a professor of government at Harvard, put a finer point on the significance of Trump’s comment. “I can’t think of a major candidate for office in any democracy on Earth since at least World War II who speaks in such overtly authoritarian ways,” said Ziblatt. “Not Victor Orban in Hungary, not Recep Erdogan in Turkey. Nowhere.”

And:

Jennifer Mercieca, a communications professor at Texas A&M University and author of “Demagogue for President: The Rhetorical Genius of Donald Trump,” said in an email that she interpreted Trump’s comment as an attempt to address the “double bind” that supposed “strongmen” leaders face……

……“I think Trump is here promising Christians that he will actually solve the problems that he has promised them he’ll solve (a full abortion ban … and various ‘culture war’ issues) and so with all of the problems solved, they won’t feel like the world is so chaotic that they have to vote to save the nation.”


“It’s a big promise,” she added, “and he doesn’t give specific details here.”


As noted, I did not immediately think “he won’t leave office”, but, hey, he already tried it once!! I don’t even understand how the hell he’s even allowed to run again after trying to overthrow the government. Naw, he means it. Just put him in that Oval Office, and he’ll leave the day he dies, not one day sooner….Not ONE day sooner….
Everyone should watch Bad Faith

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You are a straight up bigot if you honestly believe what you just wrote. Ethnic background makes no difference in how hard it is to get an ID. Anyone falling for the 'requiring of voter ID is racist' narrative requires they believe this or that ethnicity is less capable. Anyone parroting that line is a bigot. full stop.

The reason the GOP is pushing voter ID is that it makes ballot harvesting impossible, and no GOP candidate can win a national election if certain key states allow ballot harvesting, which currently they do. Without a voter ID mandate, no GOP candidate can win a national election, and that has nothing to do with fraud. It is based purely on the unfortunate fact the majority of the American voter base is lazy and apathetic which leaves a massive pool of votes proactive gathering campaigns can pull from to help their candidate win an election.
Huh? If ballot harvesting is allowed, happening, and being done by Democrats only then why the **** arent the Republicans doing it?
And why are these harvested ballots by democrats voting for Republican governors, senators, and congress people?

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Huh? If ballot harvesting is allowed, happening, and being done by Democrats only then why the **** arent the Republicans doing it?
And why are these harvested ballots by democrats voting for Republican governors, senators, and congress people?
The Republicans are trying to cobble together something to match the Democrat's ground game. In fact DeSantis said that would be key to his campaign, but the reality of proactive gathering of votes is that population density is everything. A single building in a city center can have as many votes as many square miles of rural area. The transit time between residences can be a dozen seconds versus a dozen minutes. The GOP would have to build a ground game 10 times the size of the Democrat one to be on even ground, or the GOP would simply have to pass voter ID laws which makes the proactive harvesting of votes a nonissue. Lazy apathetic people can go back to being non-voters by their own choice, and engaged voters can get themselves to where the voter ID is being checked. Voter ID laws are about having elections decided by the in-person vote, not about different ethnicities being too unfortunate to be capable of getting an ID. Anyone who believes the latter is themselves a racist even if they attempt to mask it in being opposed to racism.
 
The Republicans are trying to cobble together something to match the Democrat's ground game. In fact DeSantis said that would be key to his campaign, but the reality of proactive gathering of votes is that population density is everything. A single building in a city center can have as many votes as many square miles of rural area. The transit time between residences can be a dozen seconds versus a dozen minutes. The GOP would have to build a ground game 10 times the size of the Democrat one to be on even ground, or the GOP would simply have to pass voter ID laws which makes the proactive harvesting of votes a nonissue. Lazy apathetic people can go back to being non-voters by their own choice, and engaged voters can get themselves to where the voter ID is being checked. Voter ID laws are about having elections decided by the in-person vote, not about different ethnicities being too unfortunate to be capable of getting an ID. Anyone who believes the latter is themselves a racist even if they attempt to mask it in being opposed to racism.
You didn't address my post. Though. Read my post and try again.

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The immigration issue is crazy because a lot of the stats say the Democrat president has been way harder on immigration than the Republicans.
True, Brandon's admin has only continued if not expanded the trump admins immigration policy. "open borders" lmao.

What the Democrats are doing with immigration and the current situation with the border - IOW "reality" has no basis on what the Republicans narrative will be. They're going to cry drugs, crime, invasion and somehow everybody eats it up, including dems. If it was such an issue, why haven't they done what's necessary to stop it when they've had the power to do so?
 
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True, Brandon's admin has only continued if not expanded the trump admins immigration policy. "open borders" lmao.
Yeah, but Dems cant come out and advertise that because they dont want to upset more left leaning dems. Republicans can come out and say the most racist coded stuff possible so everyone think they must be securing the borders.
 
You didn't address my post. Though. Read my post and try again.
You asked two questions and I answered the first one. To the second, the ballot harvesting ground game is also working to remove GOP from positions of power in the states where it has been implemented. A good example is Georgia where the two state senators flipped from Republican David Perdue and Republican Kelly Loeffler to Democrat Jon Ossoff and Democrat Raphael Warnock.

In Wisconsin, one of the states with the most aggressive systems outside California, Republican Run Johnson managed to hold on to his Senate seat, but he only won in 2022 by 1% when four years earlier he won by 4%.
 
Brandon's admin has only continued if not expanded the trump admins immigration policy. "open borders" lmao.
Yeah, but Dems cant come out and advertise that because they dont want to upset more left leaning dems. Republicans can come out and say the most racist coded stuff possible so everyone think they must be securing the borders.
Tell me you don't live near the US-Mexico border without telling me you don't live near the US-Mexico border.

The people living right on the border are currently some of the most loyal Trump voters, and they are nearly 100% Ethnically Hispanic. Over the past two elections, the voter swing in Texas counties bordering Mexico was roughly 50 points toward Republicans. Neither of you has a clue what they are talking about.
 
You asked two questions and I answered the first one. To the second, the ballot harvesting ground game is also working to remove GOP from positions of power in the states where it has been implemented. A good example is Georgia where the two state senators flipped from Republican David Perdue and Republican Kelly Loeffler to Democrat Jon Ossoff and Democrat Raphael Warnock.

In Wisconsin, one of the states with the most aggressive systems outside California, Republican Run Johnson managed to hold on to his Senate seat, but he only won in 2022 by 1% when four years earlier he won by 4%.
That is an interesting cherry pick.

And all you did when addressing the first question is say that the Republicans are doing the same thing as the Democrats but are just worse at it.

The best way for Republicans to win elections is to have a better platform. That's why there are more Democratic voters than Republican voters. They should try to get more people to vote for their candidates. I know that sounds like a crazy strategy but I think it could be effective.

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Tell me you don't live near the US-Mexico border without telling me you don't live near the US-Mexico border.

The people living right on the border are currently some of the most loyal Trump voters, and they are nearly 100% Ethnically Hispanic. Over the past two elections, the voter swing in Texas counties bordering Mexico was roughly 50 points toward Republicans. Neither of you has a clue what they are talking about.

Sounds like the narrative that Republicans don't actually want to fix the border and only use the anger about the border to rile up their base without actually wanting to do anything about it is true.
They want those votes no doubt.

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Tell me you don't live near the US-Mexico border without telling me you don't live near the US-Mexico border.

The people living right on the border are currently some of the most loyal Trump voters, and they are nearly 100% Ethnically Hispanic. Over the past two elections, the voter swing in Texas counties bordering Mexico was roughly 50 points toward Republicans. Neither of you has a clue what they are talking about.
I've lived in Texas for over half my life, all in the Central or Southern part. My girlfriend is from a border town. I know more about the border than you.

Yes, there are a number of Hispanics who love Trump. Because there are a lot of Latinos who are overly machismo and love the cowboy/rightwing image.

Trump however did not win every border county
 
The best way for Republicans to win elections is to have a better platform. .... I know that sounds like a crazy strategy but I think it could be effective.
Nope. Every plank in the GOP platform in this election has majority popular support. It does not matter the platform or the candidate chosen. With the current rules in place, no GOP candidate can win a national election. Kamala will beat Trump. A brain dead Joe Biden would beat Trump. If Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson suddenly decided he was a Republican and was on the ticket, a brain dead Joe Biden would have beat him too. The current system cannot be beat.
 
Nope. Every plank in the GOP platform in this election has majority popular support. It does not matter the platform or the candidate chosen.

**** no

With the current rules in place, no GOP candidate can win a national election. Kamala will beat Trump. A brain dead Joe Biden would beat Trump. If Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson suddenly decided he was a Republican and was on the ticket, a brain dead Joe Biden would have beat him too. The current system cannot be beat.

The current system in place skews in favor of rural voters either through state district gerrymandering, or the electoral college. Rural voters vote Republican. The fact that they still "can't win" should tell you something about their popularity.
 
The current system in place skews in favor of rural voters either through state district gerrymandering, or the electoral college. Rural voters vote Republican. The fact that they still "can't win" should tell you something about their popularity.
That could be said of the system through 2016. That is not true of the system now under the changes enacted during the COVID pandemic. With the current rules in place, no GOP candidate can win a national election.
 
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