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The Inevitability of Impeachment

babe said:
You could be right, perhaps. Obviously you view the public as pretty set. I see it as changing. I think those, like you, who are set, are missing the point.

Very few people are influenced by the mainstream media much. It's seen as predictable and predictably dishonest, across the whole spectrum of political views. People are therefore, IMO, doing some of their own thinking.

I think that what is moving people is the economy, the pocketbook. That is also part of what brings people to this country. Just sayin'.... nobody the whole world over is happy with the way things are. But the extreme Left is universally regarded, outside their 5% base, as "the problem" not "the solution".

take a trip outta LA sometime.
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What?

Don't drag me into your Left Right culture War.
 
Rubashov said:
Good to see some Americans hating Trump as much as the rest of the world does. I think when he gets impeached it will be for an act of insider trading so disgustingly beneficial to T.Rump that its impossible to hide the truth. I would have loved to have seen Bernie Sanders get a shot as your president, think it would have potentially been good for America and humanity as a whole. That said its only one man and I think the scope of the office's powers are more limited than we tend to think.

A former Aussie PM recently said something interesting, in the post war period its one of the only times he can think of that the west has not been led by or had an outstanding figure. He mentioned Merkel in positive ways but its still an interesting idea.
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lol people around the world love him!
the right is rising worldwide!



HE WONT BE IMPEACHED
 
♪alt13 said:
He wasn't elected in a tsunami of public support. He beat a very flawed candidate that people were tired of and and who to her supporters seemed inevitable. Plus he lost the popular vote. So long as the Democrats don't shoot themselves in the foot again he'll likely be gone in 4 years.
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but by keeing his word, selecting a conservative cabinet. and a constitutionalist supreme court pick. most of the never trumpers are turning around. and would vote for him now.
hell even the most prominent never trumper apologized.

i was not for trump i thought he wa sa new york liberal just wanting to be president, and since never in history has a 2 time president been folowed by a president from the same party. he should run republican.

but him keeping his promises turned me around.


if there was an election TODAY he would receive MORE votes then nov 8
 
DutchJazzer said:
but by keeing his word, selecting a conservative cabinet. and a constitutionalist supreme court pick. most of the never trumpers are turning around. and would vote for him now.
hell even the most prominent never trumper apologized.

i was not for trump i thought he wa sa new york liberal just wanting to be president, and since never in history has a 2 time president been folowed by a president from the same party. he should run republican.

but him keeping his promises turned me around.


if there was an election TODAY he would receive MORE votes then nov 8
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Trump has the least amount of respect for the U.S. Constitution than any President in our history. There's no legitimate debate to be had on this issue.

Trump has acted even more like a buffoon since taking office than he did during the campaign. I say that because the implications of his actions are much more severe now. I also say it because this insecure dope is actually the President of the United States of America and he continues to be extraordinarily petty and small.

He has already waved the U.S. military around like it proves how big his "hands" are. If this infant wants to spend the lives of U.S. service members to boost his ego I would be most happy to see him killed. He is not worth the life of ONE U.S. service member. He doesn't have the maturity to be our commander-in-chief. He simply doesn't.

This guy is going to cost us dearly. We screwed up.

I think that will be plain to see soon enough.
 
Nobody really expects Game to decide to vote for Trump in four years. I'll admit at least 25% of Americans won't vote for him in 2020.

A lot of folks were comfortable with Obama golfing on Martha's Vineyard and having all sorts of very influential "friends" hanging on, and getting special treatment. The Press didn't blink at his "phone and pen" legislation because "if Congress won't do it, I will". Pretty wild times. Folks who didn't care about the Constitution then probably don't really care about it now, it's just that when the phone and pen is in the hands of someone who isn't on their team, they get nervous.

A lot of folks decided they had enough of that team.
 
♪alt13 said:
He wasn't elected in a tsunami of public support. He beat a very flawed candidate that people were tired of and and who to her supporters seemed inevitable. Plus he lost the popular vote. So long as the Democrats don't shoot themselves in the foot again he'll likely be gone in 4 years.
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I have no clue what you're talking about. I said the driving force for change in voting is economics. It's affecting a variety of nations.
 
babe said:
ten or twenty JFC members hating Trump.
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So you think that just 10 or 20 jazzfanzers hate trump? Got news for ya man, millions and millions of people hate trump. The majority of the country in fact.
 
DutchJazzer said:
but by keeing his word, selecting a conservative cabinet. and a constitutionalist supreme court pick. most of the never trumpers are turning around. and would vote for him now.
hell even the most prominent never trumper apologized.

i was not for trump i thought he wa sa new york liberal just wanting to be president, and since never in history has a 2 time president been folowed by a president from the same party. he should run republican.

but him keeping his promises turned me around.


if there was an election TODAY he would receive MORE votes then nov 8
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One of the most lol worthy posts I have ever seen.
 
One of the problems with trump is that even if ever truly did something great for our country it would be hard to notice the great achievement due to that fact that Trump would be making a fuss about what products Nordstrom is or isn't carrying in their stores, what ratings the celebrity apprentice is getting, what people are saying about his hand size, how many people there are in a crowd, how alec Baldwin is portraying him on snl, etc etc so it would hard to see the greatness through all the petty childish behavior. With his moronic, petty, childish personality it's almost impossible for him to succeed. He just isn't mature enough and doesn't have the right temperament to be a president and due to that fact he is certain to fail.
 
I do believe that babe, Dutch, and Boris all fully support the destruction of the US Judiciary as one of the three branches of the federal government. As the Supreme Court nominee stated, attacks on judges are "disheartening" and "demoralizing". I think we can safely say that his description is music to the ears of these guys. They fully support Trump's efforts to undermine the Constitution and render the courts powerless if it can be pulled off.

A government of the looters, for the looters, and by the looters. One look at all the millionaires and billionaires awaiting Cabinet appointments show just how much Trump has "drained the swamp". With Tillerson in charge of State, the fossil fuel industry will rule the day. The anti-science forces are in control at the moment. Guys like babe, Boris, and Dutch are all in favor of the complete destruction of scientific truths.
 
is there a better euphemism than "counseled"

I'm picturing her standing in a corner wearing a tall cap to match the nutcracker outfit she wore for the inauguration
 
fishonjazz said:
So you think that just 10 or 20 jazzfanzers hate trump? Got news for ya man, millions and millions of people hate trump. The majority of the country in fact.
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If it's politically significant that Nordstrom pulls a line of products because, say, some customers are objecting to the politics of the manufacturer, I don't care if the response is "People should buy that". It presumes some public support for the political association of the items. Pretty sure it was not a scripted remark on the part of KC. Pretty sure there is some concern in the President's office, in the President's mind, that it was stupid. I don't care.

There might be millions of folks against Trump in some respect or another, but the ten or twenty posters I find in JFC are not going to influence more than oh ten or twenty people with their work here.

in my opinion, of course. I don't think I change anybody's opinion.
 
Red said:
I do believe that babe, Dutch, and Boris all fully support the destruction of the US Judiciary as one of the three branches of the federal government. As the Supreme Court nominee stated, attacks on judges are "disheartening" and "demoralizing". I think we can safely say that his description is music to the ears of these guys. They fully support Trump's efforts to undermine the Constitution and render the courts powerless if it can be pulled off.

A government of the looters, for the looters, and by the looters. One look at all the millionaires and billionaires awaiting Cabinet appointments show just how much Trump has "drained the swamp". With Tillerson in charge of State, the fossil fuel industry will rule the day. The anti-science forces are in control at the moment. Guys like babe, Boris, and Dutch are all in favor of the complete destruction of scientific truths.
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I don't think it amounts to all that. Some of Trump's picks certainly could be doubted honestly, but this kind of statement you trundle out is not that kind of honesty, imo. I've never been one to glow for the CEO types, or the oil patch kings, but these do bring a different set of values to their respective posts than, say an Obama or a Clinton administration.

I have no disdain for "SCIENTIFID TRUTHS", just a less political definition of the problem than you embrace. I sincerely believe you've got no scientific judgment that is your own, that you just run with what a certain little political extremist crusade has embraced.

Gorsuch has a line of experience from his mother's EPA days that has affected his thinking about the Constitution, and he favors an original intent notion over the use of the judiciary to force political agendas. That is nothing like what you are alleging here. Gorsuch isn't going to be anybody's "boy", he's going to make the courts more even-handed. Trump might not like that kind of thinking if he tries to push an agenda, either.
 
fishonjazz said:
So you think that just 10 or 20 jazzfanzers hate trump? Got news for ya man, millions and millions of people hate trump. The majority of the country in fact.
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And there are millions and millions of people who ardently support him. Who really knows who has the majority.

I find some of the attacks on him to be bigger red flags for those making the attacks than the target of the attacks. Some pathetic stuff going on.

People on both sides are going off the deep end and it'll end badly.
 
Stoked said:
And there are millions and millions of people who ardently support him. Who really knows who has the majority.

I find some of the attacks on him to be bigger red flags for those making the attacks than the target of the attacks. Some pathetic stuff going on.

People on both sides are going off the deep end and it'll end badly.
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Ya I don't really attack his policies or whatever.
I just think he should stop tweeting about and worrying about so much stuff that he shouldnt care about as a president. Just makes him look petty and childish and distracts from good things that he might actually be doing.

Basically he could possibly be a great president for the country but his moronic, childish, petty personality and actions might make it hard to discern the good things he does.

He is his own worst enemy and can't get out of his own way.
 
JimLes said:
Well, there was an election.
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Where he lost the popular vote by 3 million votes, only 55% of people eligible to vote showed up to vote and his support has steadily gone downhill since the election and since taking office. Every reputable presidential approval poll show he is below 50% approval even ones from conservative groups.
 
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