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The Thriller said:
He specifically talks about Gobert. There's no reason why if Rubio had still been with the team that he wouldn't have mentioned him. He was merely citing players on the roster but goes into detail about Gobert. I think we're looking waaaaayyyyyy too into things by claiming that Conley was the reason why he chose this team over a quote where the only person he goes into detail discussing is Gobert.

But sure, whatever makes ya'll feel like this Conley trade wasn't a terrible move.
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Dude... come on. Conley was a franchise player for the last 5-10 years. Rubio's been a unique, intriguing player that is the punchline as often as he's praised.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Dude... come on. Conley was a franchise player for the last 5-10 years. Rubio's been a unique, intriguing player that is the punchline as often as he's praised.
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i dont disagree. I get the reasons why we pulled the trigger on the trade. However, I remember reading several posters on this very site who had concerns about his size, age, and contract. All these concerns have been validated by Conley’s horrific play.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Ehh, yeah, he did. It's a team sport.

You asked for proof and got it, but you just want to dig your heals. That's fine, and again, very Thriller. That's fine. You can have the last word.
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Ive seen that quote before. So while you think you “got me” and that I’m digging my HEELS not heals, it’s just not true. I’d read that quote before and it never stood out to me that he decided on coming here because of Conley. I always just read it and saw he mentioned Conley (would’ve been rubio had he still been here. Or jingles had Rubio and Conley not been here) and Mitchell but goes into detail about Gobert. Which I construed as being more impactful because Gobert offsets Bogie’s defensive and rebounding weaknesses (as the article alludes to).

So again, I think you’re looking far too much into that quote in order to justify that trade.
 
They’ve played bad enough and for quite a long stretch for me to get on board yet. I’ll cautiously wait to see if the energy is still there during a few more games and to see how Conley is merged into this “new look”.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
I think there's too much vibrato in her delivery. Any other opera afficionados here? Porgy and Bess was written to attract a more mainstream audience and her delivery appeals more to the opera purists.
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As an opera musician I agree with you, her vibrato is too wide at times, especially for that sort of music. Now that is the post I have never imagined I would be writing here.
 
SCS said:
The offense has looked better since that brutal road trip ended. Even in the OKC game we had some good player/ball movement going, we just didn't make shots. I don't know if we're "back" though. Defense still looks discombobulated, I still don't trust this bench unit Quin is enamored with, and Quin can revert to that stupid single high screen and kill the offense at any time. We'll see how the next 5-10 games goes. I want to believe.
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We need a healthy Conley, bottom line.
 
The Thriller said:
... But I remember less emotional fans than I, warning the board about Conley. They explained clearly and articulately concerns about his size, age, and contract. All things that many (including our management) seemed to ignore or minimize. Now, these defects have never been more apparent. Conley has lost a step (maybe more)...
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He hasn't lost a step. He's at the same speed he always was. His shot isn't falling at the rate it did last year. His speed is the same. And he was trending up before the hammy.

I was one of the people wary of the Conley acquisition. But now that he's here he's our guy and I'm going to root for him to succeed.
 
People are going to think we are a good team after this stretch of playing ****** teams. People already doing this when all we did was beat the lowly Timberwolves who were on 5 game losing streak coming into the game smh.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think that's open for debate.
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I've liked getting a chance to see what may be our best altogether lineup starting and ending games (DM - Royce - Ingles - Bojan - Gobert), and hopefully Quin sees what is ****ing obvious here.
 
I really don't understand the people that are longing to have last years team back. We haven't played anywhere even close to our potential yet and we still have a much better record after 25 games than we ever did with Rubio/Favors. Two years ago we bottomed out at 19-28 and last year we didn't get above .500 until January, and both years we were absolutely dismantled by the Rockets in the playoffs.

I don't deny that this team has some issues to sort out but there's no way in hell I would trade them for last years team. Ever since Quins been the coach we have always found our rhythm and played by far our best basketball in the second half of the season and I would expect this year to be no different. The ceiling of this team is much higher than last years.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I've liked getting a chance to see what may be our best altogether lineup starting and ending games (DM - Royce - Ingles - Bojan - Gobert), and hopefully Quin sees what is ****ing obvious here.
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If this is our best lineup, why are we paying Conley so damn much? Why did we make the trade?
 
Jingled said:
I really don't understand the people that are longing to have last years team back. We haven't played anywhere even close to our potential yet and we still have a much better record after 25 games than we ever did with Rubio/Favors. Two years ago we bottomed out at 19-28 and last year we didn't get above .500 until January, and both years we were absolutely dismantled by the Rockets in the playoffs.

I don't deny that this team has some issues to sort out but there's no way in hell I would trade them for last years team. Ever since Quins been the coach we have always found our rhythm and played by far our best basketball in the second half of the season and I would expect this year to be no different. The ceiling of this team is much higher than last years.
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I keep seeing this posted. Who’s going to play better for us? Niang? Mudiay? Green? Davis?

bogie, Mitchell, and Gobert have been about as expected.

Conley and jingles haven’t been. But how much better should they be? How much better can they be?

our bench is horrible. I’m not sure I buy into this “the jazz have Dream Team potential” argument. After their starting 4 or 5, theres significant drop off that I’m not sure can be countered.
 
Regarding the argument between Numb and Thriller about the Conley trade being worth it because it got you guys Bogey, I declare Thriller the victor.
 
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The Thriller said:
I keep seeing this posted. Who’s going to play better for us? Niang? Mudiay? Green? Davis?

bogie, Mitchell, and Gobert have been about as expected.

Conley and jingles haven’t been. But how much better should they be? How much better can they be?

our bench is horrible. I’m not sure I buy into this “the jazz have Dream Team potential” argument. After their starting 4 or 5, theres significant drop off that I’m not sure can be countered.
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Ingles is playing much better and is looking like his old self lately. Once Conley gets the system down completely and builds better chemistry and connectivity with his teammates I think his play will significantly improve. We all know Quins system is very complicated, there was a quote from Conley a few weeks ago saying that you need a PHD to play here. It took Rubio half a season to finally start looking comfortable running the offense and I have no doubt Conly will get there eventually. I also don't think the bench is set in stone. We still have the trade deadline and Andy Larsen say's the Jazz will be very aggressive in the buyout market.
 
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