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The Jazz are missing a piece on defense, and that piece is Andrei Kirilenko.

TheSilencer1313

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While I'm guaranteeing that this thread will bring the AK haters out of the wood work, who cares.
All four of these first few games of the season for the Jazz has made it pretty obvious to me that they miss Kirilenko.
Talk about horrible help defense, absolutely NO passing for assists on the offensive end, and not to mention bad finishing at the rim.

These are all of the things that AK can bring to any team.
If the Jazz don't sign him now, he will definitely end up on another team (The New Jersey Jazz maybe).
There is no energy on the floor.... and let's face it, the only player on the Jazz right now bringing energy is Jeremy Evans.
Evans is great, but he can only be in for 10 - 12 minutes a game without being overpowered at his current size.

And no..... I'm not saying AK is a missing piece to the promised land, like I know people on here will claim I'm saying.
All I'm saying is, I don't want to see the Jazz lose all season while developing these guys.
Kirilenko will help the team stay competitive, and also bring some veteran leadership to a team that is as confused about it's identity as I've ever seen.
 
Lock this thread. While I'm not an AK hater, we do not need anymore veterans. It was between Josh Howard or AK and we signed Howard. Why would we just increase the depth of this team by adding more mediocre veteran role players to young players?

Greg Miller won't do it and neither would I. We need to develop our younger players not add veterans who are just going to take up young players minutes.
 
utahjazz107 said:
Why would we just increase the depth of this team by adding more mediocre veteran role players to young players?
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mediocre? lol. how about bringing some mediocre coach out of retirement, that would make you happy huh?
 
This is a rebuilding year. The sooner you accept that, the less painful it will be.

I happen to be an AK fan, and I have no doubt he could help us win a few more games this year. However, he wouldn't be the difference between completely sucking and becoming a playoff team. Not only that, but he is just way too injury prone to justify the amount of money we'd have to spend. As much as I <3 AK, his time with this team has come to an end.

Signing AK at this point would be akin to putting a bandaid on a broken arm.
 
utahjazz107 said:
Lock this thread. While I'm not an AK hater, we do not need anymore veterans. It was between Josh Howard or AK and we signed Howard. Why would we just increase the depth of this team by adding more mediocre veteran role players to young players?

Greg Miller won't do it and neither would I. We need to develop our younger players not add veterans who are just going to take up young players minutes.
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I completely disagree.
How can you possibly be too deep?
I for one definitely hope that Howard gets more and more like his old self, and if that's the case.... then he can play more shooting guard when Hayward doesn't show up.
Do you really believe that Kirilenko can not help this teams passing and defensive pedigree?
 
freakazoid said:
This is a rebuilding year. The sooner you accept that, the less painful it will be.

I happen to be an AK fan, and I have no doubt he could help us win a few more games this year. However, he wouldn't be the difference between completely sucking and becoming a playoff team. Not only that, but he is just way too injury prone to justify the amount of money we'd have to spend. As much as I <3 AK, his time with this team has come to an end.

Signing AK at this point would be akin to putting a bandaid on a broken arm.
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I really don't believe the Jazz will be that bad either way, after about 10 games.
I think there is a possibility of the Jazz at an 8th seed.
Add Kirilenko to the team, and I believe it takes that possibility to a "strong" one.
Another thing I would like to mention....
Please Ty, start Paul Millsap!
He's the only guy on the team that can clean up anything on both ends.
He needs to be playing 40 minutes a game.
Sloan was playing Williams 40 a game, so why wouldn't Ty play his best player just as much?
 
If AK is as good and valuable as you say another team would have thrown some serious money at him.

Either his price is too high or the interest isn't that high around the league. Neither is a good sign.
 
AK's length, pure and simple, made up for many deficiencies on the Sloan-led Jazz on D. Offensively, his best skill was as a passer. Losing him certainly weakens us until the current team adjusts to life w/o AK. The talent is there now; they just need time on the court together to learn how to function together as a team.

Exactly, 'revolution'; AK is in decline, can't stay healthy, and wants too much $$$$$$$$$$$$$; the whole league knows it...
 
This thread makes me sad. I really can't believe that NOBODY has picked up AK yet.


Depressing.
 
TroutBum said:
This thread makes me sad. I really can't believe that NOBODY has picked up AK yet.


Depressing.
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I believe he is still recovering from an injured shoulder he recieved in this fall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6ZSqkhX7l0&feature=player_embedded
 
He has January 9 as a deadline to inform his CSKA team if he is staying for full season in Russia or he is coming back to NBA. And he said he is going to take all that time to make decision. So it is another 11 days to wait.
 
lol

yes.....

we totally would have dominated porty, la, and denver with ak's 1 block and 1 steal. He's definitely the missing piece...

Folks, the sooner you come to grips with the term "REBUILDING" the better off you'll be.
 
As i pointed out a few weeks ago, its painfully obvious AK was the team's best defender, passer and facilitator of this offense. The last part would really help this young team come along. Guarantee Corbin would love to have him. Rebuilding doesn't mean you have to go 12-44. Hayward needs to play the 2; they need a real 3. I like Howard's quickness but he gets hurt more often than AK and he gets shots off before he gets his warmup off.
 
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lol

yes.....

we totally would have dominated porty, la, and denver with ak's 1 block and 1 steal. He's definitely the missing piece...

Folks, the sooner you come to grips with the term "REBUILDING" the better off you'll be.
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Did you even read the beginning post?
I said the Jazz would be better, and probably closer in those games.
He's not the answer to everything at all, but he can definitely help these guys.
Years and years of playoff experience with some of the best players that have ever lived.
 
coachd said:
As i pointed out a few weeks ago, its painfully obvious AK was the team's best defender, passer and facilitator of this offense. The last part would really help this young team come along. Guarantee Corbin would love to have him. Rebuilding doesn't mean you have to go 12-44. Hayward needs to play the 2; they need a real 3. I like Howard's quickness but he gets hurt more often than AK and he gets shots off before he gets his warmup off.
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Agreed here.
The Jazz have probably never seen a defender quite like Kirilenko, outside of maybe Mark Eaton, Bryon Russell, or Shandon Anderson.
They need his defensive prowess to remind Corbin of how the sloan system worked at that position.
 
i love Ak and i would be happy to see him again in the team but i dont think he is missing piece or something, we need to get rid of the veterans we already have instead of adding more.
It was a choice between howard and AK and they signed howard which i would take AK 10 times over Howard but now the fact is we are not gonna resign him. I am sure KOC is thinking about new trade scenarios and adding some players but AK isnt one of them.

We are rebuilding, and lets go younger, not balance the team with elders just not to call ourselves the youngest team in the league. Also there is a question i have been asking myself, how bad is it to be the worst record this year? is it worse than being an average team and not making the playoffs? i dont think so.
We will have a good chance of getting a lottery pick. Well we dont need to be overloaded with top 3 picks of the last 3 yrs but still asset is an asset, the better asset is always the better advantage. So i wouldnt be against going young and tanking the season. Worst case we can get a top 3 pick and make a package with one of the good players we already have and get an elite player instead of two good young players.

In NBA there is always an option to contend, getting 3 superstars together like miami or boston if you are a big franchise, getting 5 really good players together like Detroit, surrounding 2 superstars with good pieces like lakers, tanking the season, getting the lottery pick and surrounding the top pick with other players, like durant, derrick rose, dwight howard, but only option not to contend is being an average team between 15-20 for consequtive years. We were maybe slightly better than that but we were something like this for the past years. Now the most not logical thing to do is trying to be an average team, winning a few tough games at home to lure a few more fans.
 
TheSilencer1313 said:
Did you even read the beginning post?
I said the Jazz would be better, and probably closer in those games.
He's not the answer to everything at all, but he can definitely help these guys.
Years and years of playoff experience with some of the best players that have ever lived.
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The problem is not being closer or slightly better, we should be much better in a few years, thats why we should set the right core. I was still hoping to see AK for a few more years, but we signed Howard and thats not gonna happen anymore. Just we have to forget AK and make right moves for future
 
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