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The Jazz's Big Lineup per Basketball Prospectus.

Millsap playing most his minutes at the 3 is the only way we can keep Millsap and Jefferson next year. We would also have to jettison the temptation to pick up someone to play minutes at the three. Also, Hayward would need to be at the 2 exclusively. I'm just glad that thy finally put Millsap at the three. In the post game, Johnson was saying Millsap at the three forced Orlando to play Quentin Richardson, which is nice because everyone tends to think we are always on the losing end of a mismatch, regardless of what it is.
 
cowhide said:
Harris/Tinsley
Hayward/Burks
Millsap/Carroll/Evans
Favors/Millsap/Evans
AJ/Kanter/Favors
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You also forgot to add Ahern in there at the PG, spot as he signed for the rest of the year. As far as what Josh and Raja both told me last night at the game... Josh is ready to be back, but the physicians are keeping hom out another week. He is hoping to get in possibly for the Portland game, or be back for the playoffs. I know he wants to be in to get some work in during Portland, to work some of the rust off prior to the playoffs. Raja said that he would be back for the playoffs, however my conversation with him was very short and I didn't get any details on that. In my personal opinion, Howard being back isn't such a bad thing, especially since I know he would not want to start and screw up the chemistry out on the floor, he would want to just help when he could. Raja however, I am hoping that he does not get much playing time. He has been a disappointment frankly. After last year, and his poor performance all year, he came into this shortened season in shape, and claiming he was going to fix what was wrong from last year (namely scoring and better defense). Unfortunately Raja has been unable to guard even an old musty sock on its way to the laundry hamper, and his jumpshot has been just as horrible. I love Raja, as a person, however as a player, I am over him. I would like to see the Jazz trade him this year as an expiring, not resign CJ Miles, keep this exact core we have now, including Evans (the only other free agent aside from Ahern), fill in the two or three spots with some mid level role players, and keep going with the guys that we as fans have all loved to watch this year. But hey that is only my opinion!
 
utahquad said:
You also forgot to add Ahern in there at the PG, spot as he signed for the rest of the year. As far as what Josh and Raja both told me last night at the game... Josh is ready to be back, but the physicians are keeping hom out another week. He is hoping to get in possibly for the Portland game, or be back for the playoffs. I know he wants to be in to get some work in during Portland, to work some of the rust off prior to the playoffs. Raja said that he would be back for the playoffs, however my conversation with him was very short and I didn't get any details on that. In my personal opinion, Howard being back isn't such a bad thing, especially since I know he would not want to start and screw up the chemistry out on the floor, he would want to just help when he could. Raja however, I am hoping that he does not get much playing time. He has been a disappointment frankly. After last year, and his poor performance all year, he came into this shortened season in shape, and claiming he was going to fix what was wrong from last year (namely scoring and better defense). Unfortunately Raja has been unable to guard even an old musty sock on its way to the laundry hamper, and his jumpshot has been just as horrible. I love Raja, as a person, however as a player, I am over him. I would like to see the Jazz trade him this year as an expiring, not resign CJ Miles, keep this exact core we have now, including Evans (the only other free agent aside from Ahern), fill in the two or three spots with some mid level role players, and keep going with the guys that we as fans have all loved to watch this year. But hey that is only my opinion!
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Raja's jumpshot has been horrible? 48% from the field and 40% from 3 constitutes a horrible jumpshot. Dear lord.
 
How many minutes did these three play together last season? Were the results similar? I ask because I remember Millsap finished last season playing some 3 here or there as well and some similar excitement from board members.

JJAS: I recall seeing many spin moves by Kanter in his highlights pre-draft. At the time, I was pretty amazed that a guy that big could look so agile and seemingly refined.
 
JJAS said:
On a slightly different note (it still concerns a big), Kanter made a move last night that blew me away--not because I haven't seen it done but because it came from him. In the fourth quarter at the 7:30 mark, Kanter drove to the rim and did a spin all while looking in pretty good control. He either lost it or threw kind of bad pass to Favors, but holy crap, if he can develop this (which I think he can after seeing this; PKM says this isn't that rare), he is going to have an incredible arsenal of weapons: soft jump-shot, good post work (his shooting % is getting better), ability to face-up/put the ball on the floor, and defend. If he can work on his left hand and passing, wow! It really shows how raw he is and how much he can still improve.
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I was surprised by that as well. If he can size up his opponents like Millsap does, backing down the smaller ones and driving past the slower, bigger ones, he will have a heck of a career.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
A couple other things this made me think. How much will Ty go with this lineup in the postseason should we make it? Also, the best stats website I've seen. www.teamrankings.com.
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We can get away with it against the Spurs for sure considering they have Leonard and S.Jax as their 3 men. I could see Popovich going small and playing Ginobili at the 3, which would be problematic for Sap to guard.
 
I love our big line up. Milsaps weakness againt 3's is so minor vs our normal weakness against 3's that it barely shows up. The advantage we get on offense and rebounding more then make up for it. We need to make other teams have to adjust to us. Make teams have to deal with 75+pts in paint, + 10 offensive rebounds, and better overall defense.
 
Hopefully we can put an end to the ridiculous debate that says it's better to play someone who sucks at his natural position than someone who's good out of position.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
We can get away with it against the Spurs for sure considering they have Leonard and S.Jax as their 3 men. I could see Popovich going small and playing Ginobili at the 3, which would be problematic for Sap to guard.
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This would also be problematic for Ginobli to guard.
 
my problem with it is that paul isn't really taking advantage on the offensive end. the other night, he had Q guarding him in the mid-post on like 6 or 7 different occasions. i think he took him to the hole once. most of those plays ended with fadeaway jumpers. FADEAWAYS! what's the point of creating a mismatch if he's just going to take Cj-type shots. when he has a mouse in the house, he needs to overpower the midgets guarding him, not settle for a bad 18-footer.
 
theNBAnerd said:
my problem with it is that paul isn't really taking advantage on the offensive end. the other night, he had Q guarding him in the mid-post on like 6 or 7 different occasions. i think he took him to the hole once. most of those plays ended with fadeaway jumpers. FADEAWAYS! what's the point of creating a mismatch if he's just going to take Cj-type shots. when he has a mouse in the house, he needs to overpower the midgets guarding him, not settle for a bad 18-footer.
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Then give him at least 2 three-point shooters so he has space to operate. Because we don't really have this, and because Slow Al is down on the block, there isn't much room to operate. At least one of these factors needs to be alleviated ASAP. Favors can stand at the free throw line and wait for a lane-rushing dunk... that helps. Hopefully Hayward gets more reliable with his three-pointer. And, hopefully we can eventually count on Kanter to hit a 18 footer (which he has the skills to do).

If I add this up, then I want a three-point shooting PG.... which is why I've leaned to Lillard over Marshall... but Marshall's passing would be oh-so-sweet.
 
NAOS said:
Then give him at least 2 three-point shooters so he has space to operate. Because we don't really have this, and because Slow Al is down on the block, there isn't much room to operate. At least one of these factors needs to be alleviated ASAP. Favors can stand at the free throw line and wait for a lane-rushing dunk... that helps. Hopefully Hayward gets more reliable with his three-pointer. And, hopefully we can eventually count on Kanter to hit a 18 footer (which he has the skills to do).
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this isn't a spacing issue -- i'm talking about times when paul was isolated in the post against q-rich, a 6'6" guy with NO post defense skills. he had his "room to operate" but instead of backing down, he settled for jumpers.

what's the point of creating mismatches if you're not going to take advantage of them?
 
theNBAnerd said:
this isn't a spacing issue -- i'm talking about times when paul was isolated in the post against q-rich, a 6'6" guy with NO post defense skills. he had his "room to operate" but instead of backing down, he settled for jumpers.

what's the point of creating mismatches if you're not going to take advantage of them?
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I didn't have the fine-toothed comb out while watching these particular sequences, but I'd be willing to bet that while Paul was isolated on the strong side, there were two goons on the other side of the key waiting to leap at him if he came to the rim + the guard on the top side sagging off the perimeter. In fact, if it was defended in any other fashion, that would be an error on their part.
 
NAOS said:
I didn't have the fine-toothed comb out while watching these particular sequences, but I'd be willing to bet that while Paul was isolated on the strong side, there were two goons on the other side of the key waiting to leap at him if he came to the rim + the guard on the top side sagging off the perimeter. In fact, if it was defended in any other fashion, that would be an error on their part.
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that still doesn't mean you settle for a fade-away jumper. back q-rich down and force those "goons" to come over, which frees guys up for shots and/or cuts. a mismatch does no good if you don't take advantage of it, and that particular shot is something millsap does against bynum. against quentin he should be able to use his size to force orlando into some bad decisions, or else what's the point.
 
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