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I think it is safe to say that Karl Malone has had his mistakes and missteps exposed to the world in a way that none of us would enjoy if it were us. He was a professional athlete and by extension a public figure. He handled himself poorly and based on plenty of interviews I've seen, I'd say he knows that.

That being said, there are numerous people that have done much worse that Karl and not had their dirty laundry exposed for the whole nation/world to see. Karl is far from a perfect person, but as a Jazzman, there has only been 1 better (Stockton in my mind). If not for Karl Malone, the Jazz would most likely not be in Utah. If not for Malone, Stockton would not have been Stockton, Sloan would not have been Sloan and we'd most likely be Lakers, Suns, or Trailblazer fans or hate the NBA for leaving Salt Lake 20-22 years ago.

Whenever you put someone up on a pedistal they will invariably dissappoint you. No one is perfect. Karl was a total jerk to his first set of kids. When I think of Karl Malone, I think of the dedication he had, his heart, and how he just brought it every night. I wish the NBA was more like that now. I wish people in general had that work ethic now.
 
Lets definitely focus on the mistake he made as a young man and not on:

a) The many years of excellent basketball that we were given

or

b) the amount of money he has poured into our community's charities

or

c) the amount of time that I saw him take to greet and talk to disabled children at his birthday event yesterday
 
I don't know why some poeple make it apoint to piss all over threads that sort of aim to pay tribute to Stock or Malone. Eariler there was one thread on Stock where someone was bitching that Stockton was nasty off the court and did not sign autographs. Was it you YB85? And now Malone's sexual exploits when he was 17yrs old. MJ and Magic's lives have plenty more dirt if you are willing to dig deep enough. Or even better, Wilt Chamberlain. They were the perfect role models off the court.
Give it a freaking rest already. This is about celebrating Malone's contribution to the Utah Jazz and to the game as such.
 
Mantis said:
Wow. How many rounds did your Dad last before he hit the canvas?
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Well, my father was a pretty big man, but unfortunately he didn't get to do any rounds with Ali.

ps. I know you were joking around. Good one, made me chuckle, a little.
 
Karl said
"I don't know, but I can tell you that physically, I never felt I played against someone that was in better shape and better prepared than me."
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Malone is now what, 47 years old? What he did (or, supposedly did), happened almost 30 yrs ago. Its horrible that he did that, but, perhaps 28 yrs is enough time where we can try to look more at the positive things he's done (and there are plenty, on and off the court) rather than some egregious errors he's made in the distant past?.
 
I'm sure those in Mississippi whom he helped in the Katrina relief effort just think he's a horrible guy...I mean, isn't this terrible what he did there?


https://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-09-29-malone-katrina_x.htm

Karl "The Mailman" Malone is still delivering, no matter what the weather.

Karl Malone, right, helps residents in Pascagoula, Mississippi in the wake of hurricane Katrina.
By Brad Marshall

The former NBA all-star and a crew from his logging company in Arkansas spent two weeks in Pascagoula, Miss., hauling away debris left by Hurricane Katrina.

"Everything about this just felt right," Malone says. "My mom died two years ago, and in our last conversation, she told me that one day I would have to step up on a grand scale and help people. I knew this was it."

Malone, whose team cleared 114 lots, said he brought 18 vehicles to Pascagoula, including a backhoe, three bulldozers and several RVs for him and his crew.

"We were totally self-contained with our own food and everything," Malone says. "We didn't want to take even one bottle of water away from these people. When we told them we were doing this for free, they looked at us like we were crazy or something."

Malone, 42, an experienced truck driver and logger who was born in Bernice, La., spent 12 hours a day behind the wheel of his heavy machinery.

"We started every day at seven in the morning and didn't quit until we got it done," he says.

When Malone arrived, he says he ran into resistance from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and Army Corps of Engineers officials who said he wasn't authorized to bring his machinery into the area to clear private property.

"There was a lot of red tape, and I ain't got time for that," he says. "I found out that if you're going to do something good, just go ahead and do it."

Bob Anderson, a spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers, says FEMA and the corps by law could only allow approved contractors to clear debris and that only government agencies could work on "public rights of way."

Malone says landowners were told that debris had to be moved out to the street before it could be hauled away. "How is a landowner who just lost everything going to pay $15,000 or $20,000 to have a lot cleared? I mean, there were two or three houses on top of one another in some places."

This put Malone in the middle of territorial disputes with private contractors.

"We had one guy come up to us and tell us to go to another neighborhood and that these people could afford to pay," Malone says. "I told him, 'Why should they pay? They just lost everything.' "

Bringing the kind of hardboiled attitude to philanthropy that made him a much-feared power-forward during 18 seasons with the Utah Jazz and one with the Los Angeles Lakers, Malone decided to stay right where he was.

"Once I get in my machine, no one is going to get me out," he says. "We just said 'the hell with it.' FEMA didn't approve, but we did it for the people."

Steve Glenn, a FEMA official in Mississippi, said rules regarding clearing debris on private property exist to protect individuals' rights: "We can't just go onto private property on a whim."

But Steve Mitchell, a public works official in Pascagoula, says Malone's crew performed a valuable service for the community.

"Our view was, more power to you," Mitchell says. "If he got resistance, he didn't get it from us. I wish I had known about the trouble he had. I wish he were still here. Essentially, we just said 'bless his heart.' "

Through it all, Malone said he and his men could not help but feel the joy begin to grow around them. "There are these American flags everywhere, and people have unbelievably big smiles," Malone says. "The feeling was a high that all the guys got."
 
You should see all of the cool links I can find about Kobe and his generosity. It doesn't change the fact that he's a rapist.
 
Jazzfannut83 said:
I'm sure those in Mississippi whom he helped in the Katrina relief effort just think he's a horrible guy...I mean, isn't this terrible what he did there?


https://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-09-29-malone-katrina_x.htm

Karl "The Mailman" Malone is still delivering, no matter what the weather.

Karl Malone, right, helps residents in Pascagoula, Mississippi in the wake of hurricane Katrina.
By Brad Marshall

The former NBA all-star and a crew from his logging company in Arkansas spent two weeks in Pascagoula, Miss., hauling away debris left by Hurricane Katrina.

"Everything about this just felt right," Malone says. "My mom died two years ago, and in our last conversation, she told me that one day I would have to step up on a grand scale and help people. I knew this was it."

Malone, whose team cleared 114 lots, said he brought 18 vehicles to Pascagoula, including a backhoe, three bulldozers and several RVs for him and his crew.

"We were totally self-contained with our own food and everything," Malone says. "We didn't want to take even one bottle of water away from these people. When we told them we were doing this for free, they looked at us like we were crazy or something."

Malone, 42, an experienced truck driver and logger who was born in Bernice, La., spent 12 hours a day behind the wheel of his heavy machinery.

"We started every day at seven in the morning and didn't quit until we got it done," he says.

When Malone arrived, he says he ran into resistance from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and Army Corps of Engineers officials who said he wasn't authorized to bring his machinery into the area to clear private property.

"There was a lot of red tape, and I ain't got time for that," he says. "I found out that if you're going to do something good, just go ahead and do it."

Bob Anderson, a spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers, says FEMA and the corps by law could only allow approved contractors to clear debris and that only government agencies could work on "public rights of way."

Malone says landowners were told that debris had to be moved out to the street before it could be hauled away. "How is a landowner who just lost everything going to pay $15,000 or $20,000 to have a lot cleared? I mean, there were two or three houses on top of one another in some places."

This put Malone in the middle of territorial disputes with private contractors.

"We had one guy come up to us and tell us to go to another neighborhood and that these people could afford to pay," Malone says. "I told him, 'Why should they pay? They just lost everything.' "

Bringing the kind of hardboiled attitude to philanthropy that made him a much-feared power-forward during 18 seasons with the Utah Jazz and one with the Los Angeles Lakers, Malone decided to stay right where he was.

"Once I get in my machine, no one is going to get me out," he says. "We just said 'the hell with it.' FEMA didn't approve, but we did it for the people."

Steve Glenn, a FEMA official in Mississippi, said rules regarding clearing debris on private property exist to protect individuals' rights: "We can't just go onto private property on a whim."

But Steve Mitchell, a public works official in Pascagoula, says Malone's crew performed a valuable service for the community.

"Our view was, more power to you," Mitchell says. "If he got resistance, he didn't get it from us. I wish I had known about the trouble he had. I wish he were still here. Essentially, we just said 'bless his heart.' "

Through it all, Malone said he and his men could not help but feel the joy begin to grow around them. "There are these American flags everywhere, and people have unbelievably big smiles," Malone says. "The feeling was a high that all the guys got."
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This is BS, why didnt anyone tell me about this????? MALONE WAS WITHIN 15 MINUTES OF ME AND NO ONE TOLD ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Why does eveyone here scared to taKE a player that has been lableed a thug but yet karl malone is loved besides the fact that he knocked up a 13 year old girl. Must be a utah thing i guess
 
Oh c'mon guys...I'm sure we all have some skeletons in our closet. Every single one of us. I'm not comparing what we have done to what Karl has done, not one of us has had a perfect life.

Please consider the fact that some of y'all are screaming at him even when you don't know all of the details of what occurred. I doubt any of us is privy to the goings-on of Karl's neighborhood. In Louisiana. In the 70s.

Life is about making choices. We have made ours just as Karl has made his.

But also consider that the basketball Hall of Fame rewards players for what they have done *on the court*. Karl's on-court contributions have - without doubt - made him one of the historically best players of all time. Far as I can tell, this thread centers on the on-court stuff. Or at least it should.
 
chemdude1232 said:
Oh c'mon guys...I'm sure we all have some skeletons in our closet. Every single one of us. I'm not comparing what we have done to what Karl has done, not one of us has had a perfect life.

Please consider the fact that some of y'all are screaming at him even when you don't know all of the details of what occurred. I doubt any of us is privy to the goings-on of Karl's neighborhood. In Louisiana. In the 70s.

Life is about making choices. We have made ours just as Karl has made his.

But also consider that the basketball Hall of Fame rewards players for what they have done *on the court*. Karl's on-court contributions have - without doubt - made him one of the historically best players of all time. Far as I can tell, this thread centers on the on-court stuff. Or at least it should.
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This is foollishness. I'm perfect.
 
ya some of us made mistakes but atleast mine didnt come with sexual intercourse with a minor. Say what you want but really he is no better of a person then michael jackson
 
ncoloradojazz said:
ya some of us made mistakes but atleast mine didnt come with sexual intercourse with a minor. Say what you want but really he is no better of a person then michael jackson
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Jackson was a repeat offender...Malone did it once and it was almost 30 yrs ago. Not saying that by any means make it ok but, there's a difference between it happening once and doing it repeatedly.
 
Jazzfannut83 said:
Jackson was a repeat offender...Malone did it once and it was almost 30 yrs ago. Not saying that by any means make it ok but, there's a difference between it happening once and doing it repeatedly.
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Not to mention there being a difference between a 6 year age gap and a 20+ year age gap.
 
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