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Saint Cy of JFC said:
By the time he is getting paid that much it wont be as nearly as much as it seems now.

He's still really good. I doubt they would just swap him for Russ and two future picks. It would have to be closer to the package we got for Donovan.
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I agree he's really good, and of course that contract at 33/34 isn't like some other stars who're paid until they're more like 36-37 (even Curry's contract can end up being horrible). I don't see which teams would give up a Donovan-like package, though.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
One of the worst contracts in the league.
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
By the time he is getting paid that much it wont be as nearly as much as it seems now.

He's still really good. I doubt they would just swap him for Russ and two future picks. It would have to be closer to the package we got for Donovan.
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Aside from whether Beal is worth this kind of money, it is absolutely insane to me that we have reached a point where discussing whether paying a single player $50+ million for a single season is "worth" it. How far are we from $20-40 mill being a journeyman salary in the NBA? Because 10 years ago who would have thought that paying a player like Conley $20 mill after a down contract and multiple injuries would be viewed as just fine or basically just the cost of doing business and not just flat out crazy? Unbelievable where this thing has gone.
 
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hgb said:
I agree he's really good, and of course that contract at 33/34 isn't like some other stars who're paid until they're more like 36-37 (even Curry's contract can end up being horrible). I don't see which teams would give up a Donovan-like package, though.
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I said closer to, not the Donovan package. We didn't really get that much for Donovan. If Lauri didn't make a huge leap it would have been a ****** trade for Utah.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Aside from whether Beal is worth this kind of money, it is absolutely insane to me that we have reached a point where discussing whether paying a single player $50+ million for a single season is "worth" it. How far are we from $20-40 mill being a journeyman salary in the NBA? Because 10 years ago who would have thought that paying a player like Conley $20 mill after a down contract and multiple injuries would be viewed as just fine or basically just the cost of doing business and not just flat out crazy? Unbelievable where this thing has gone.
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The NBA is doing well
 
LogGrad98 said:
Aside from whether Beal is worth this kind of money, it is absolutely insane to me that we have reached a point where discussing whether paying a single player $50+ million for a single season is "worth" it. How far are we from $20-40 mill being a journeyman salary in the NBA? Because 10 years ago who would have thought that paying a player like Conley $20 mill after a down contract and multiple injuries would be viewed as just fine or basically just the cost of doing business and not just flat out crazy? Unbelievable where this thing has gone.
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Sure. Lauri is a good example. He's being paid $16.5 million this season, and that's seen around the league as a borderline pitiful salary for his production. Ten years ago that was legit (super)star money.

If Markkanen keeps this up and tests free agency, his next contract will easily be $30 million per year.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Sure. Lauri is a good example. He's being paid $16.5 million this season, and that's seen around the league as a borderline pitiful salary for his production. Ten years ago that was legit (super)star money.

If Markkanen keeps this up and tests free agency after this deal, his next contract will easily be $30 million per year.
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Lauri will get the max. Whatever the max is, he's getting that. Guessing it will be over 40 million by that time.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
By the time he is getting paid that much it wont be as nearly as much as it seems now.

He's still really good. I doubt they would just swap him for Russ and two future picks. It would have to be closer to the package we got for Donovan.
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Here is the deal with Beal though... he has a no trade clause. He can force his way to the destination. So the Lakers picks may be it... given he said there were no big markets that chased him in FA I think he would work his way out.

For the Wiz at least you get a boost to the rebuild and didn't lose Beal for nothing... but his re-signing kinda feels like the PG one where both sides kinda had a wink and a nod where they agreed if it wasn't working and he wants out they will oblige. I think Beal and DeRozan were the guys the Lakers were waiting for tbh.

If Dono had a no trade clause and he said "NY or nothing bitch!" it would have been tough to get maximum value.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
New Orleans has a ****ing super team and yall are wanting the Lakers to lose just to spite the Lakers? That pic becomes Victor and the Pelicans are going to have a dynasty.

WHY?
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I want the lakers to win just beacause i want us to have as good a pick as possible. If we start losing a bunch (i still have no idea hiw good we are going to be) i want the lakers to pass us in the standings.


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fishonjazz said:
I want the lakers to win just beacause i want us to have as good a pick as possible. If we start losing a bunch (i still have no idea hiw good we are going to be) i want the lakers to pass us in the standings.


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This is a very solid plan B. If the floor falls off, its better that there are teams on our heels.
 
HermanG said:
What a crazy season this is. We are almost at Dec 15th and we dont really know any teams that are likely gonna be sellers apart from the obvious 5 non-competitive teams (Houston, Spurs, Charlotte, Detroit and Orlando) and one team (Wizards) that have shown indications they might tank big.

Likeliest sellers (outside of the 5 clear sellers):
1. Most likely team to provide the trade markets with solid players that competitive teams crave for is the Wizards. They have sold their first rounder to Knicks but its lottery protected so they have motivation to blow it up. Indications are there with Kuzma and Beal recent statements.
2. OKC is not looking like a competitive team, but they dont really have players they want to trade out that are of significant value, Their core is too young. Unless they decide to split Giddey and SGA (both are ball-needy and chemistry issues have been reported)... but that seems unlikely.
3. Knicks have potentially 4 picks in the 1st round next draft but all but their own are at least top 10 protected. They also have players they have waved around in trades, so they might just pull the trigger at some point and provide the player markets with something usable.
4. Pacers have their own pick plus two top 12/14 protected ones (Celtics and Cavs). They have the same problem as OKC, as the only players of any value that are not important for their future are Hield and Turner, and neither one seems like a hot commodity as they have been waved around before without much results.
5. Our picks are well documented on this site. Problem is, we dont have high value players that the organization has indicated they are willing to sell. Only Rudy Gay has been waved around. We also might not be sellers at all.
6. Kings have their own pick, but are not looking like a team that is blowing it up right now. They are hyped about the team in Sacramento.
7. Blazers pick has been traded to Bulls but its top 14 protected, so they get it if they fall into lottery. All indications seem though that they want to compete this year, and Dame being on the tail of his career means they likely will.

Talk is also that Chicago might sell (they have traded their 2023 pick as top 4 protected) as well as Miami and Toronto (both own their picks) who all need to reconfigure stuff since their current team is not functional to the level they want it to be. But those three teams are not likely gonna sell the house, but instead look to switch pieces while possibly letting go of some solid players in the process.

Outside of those, there are individual players on competitive or semi-competitive teams that want out (like John Collins and Jae Crowder), but seems the player markets are gonna be a dogfight. It might change before the deadline, but right now at the start of the window the uncertainty is definitely strong.
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I would love to get Kuz, I think he works well with Lauri - I know he's a free agent but since Utah's hard to get free agents, I would want a built-in advantage.
 
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