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TNT commentator said it best. GSW is probably gonna lose this game purely because they are too old and getting out hustle due to not enough energy/athleticism on the team. Kinda like us in 2022.
 
jom2003 said:
TNT commentator said it best. GSW is probably gonna lose this game purely because they are too old and getting out hustle due to not enough energy/athleticism on the team. Kinda like us in 2022.
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Warriors are too small now. They're no longer skilled enough to get away with it.
 
I wonder if the warriors instead of making an all in trade ask Curry if he would want to be traded to a contender instead. I don't think there is a trade to get them to contention so does Curry want to finish his career on a middling team or go somewhere else. I think a team like the magic have the contracts to facilitate something if they really want to win now.
 
sip said:
I wonder if the warriors instead of making an all in trade ask Curry if he would want to be traded to a contender instead. I don't think there is a trade to get them to contention so does Curry want to finish his career on a middling team or go somewhere else. I think a team like the magic have the contracts to facilitate something if they really want to win now.
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They would have to shop Draymond/Klay/Looney first and see what they can get. Then ask Curry if he's on board with them moving his best buddies. I mean where can Curry realistically go? There's not a single contender that has the cap and assets to make a move for Curry and it would be just much easier for dubs to do a soft retool by trading Draymond/Klay.
 
jom2003 said:
They would have to shop Draymond/Klay/Looney first and see what they can get. Then ask Curry if he's on board with them moving his best buddies. I mean where can Curry realistically go? There's not a single contender that has the cap and assets to make a move for Curry and it would be just much easier for dubs to do a soft retool by trading Draymond/Klay.
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Trust me on this one: If Curry were to become available, several contenders would figure out cap and asset obstacles.
 
Do the Lakers own their pick this year? I’d love to see them and Golden State completely miss the play-in but wouldn’t appreciate the Russian roulette and the almost certainly chambered bullet in the lottery drawing.
 
infection said:
Do the Lakers own their pick this year? I’d love to see them and Golden State completely miss the play-in but wouldn’t appreciate the Russian roulette and the almost certainly chambered bullet in the lottery drawing.
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Pels have the Lakers' pick. Not sure if there are any protections.
 
Grizzlies might not be able to draft an immediate contributor with their tank effort, but getting dudes like VInce Williams and GG Jackson could be big for next year.
 
infection said:
Do the Lakers own their pick this year? I’d love to see them and Golden State completely miss the play-in but wouldn’t appreciate the Russian roulette and the almost certainly chambered bullet in the lottery drawing.
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GS only has their pick if it’s top 4. NO has the Lakers pick either this year or next year… so if it lands top 4 I assume they’d take it. Crappy draft but I assume anything in the top 10 and they’d take it.
 
Dunleavy is a in a sticky situation. There was a report yesterday that they dont want to trade away Klay and Draymond as they are franchise legends, and today they said they dont want to trade away Moody and Kuminga.

I dont really know what line of thinking they follow here. You wanna hold on to your old greats even though they are not the same guys they used to be, and you dont wanna trade your future guys even though one of them barely sees the court... so now they gonna go to the gunrange with only blanks in theri clip and then they are gonna end up wondering how the target board looks pristine afer they empty that clip.
 
Almost all teams have the same problems, trading old players who are legend where they play. But one day, you have to be realistic and move forward. Most of them delay the moment until it become obvious. I can understand that.
 
jom2003 said:
They would have to shop Draymond/Klay/Looney first and see what they can get. Then ask Curry if he's on board with them moving his best buddies. I mean where can Curry realistically go? There's not a single contender that has the cap and assets to make a move for Curry and it would be just much easier for dubs to do a soft retool by trading Draymond/Klay.
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Looney is a solid big on a nice contract, but I doubt you get a lot for him. Klay is expiring, 33 years old and has had a pretty bad season. Hard to gauge Draymond's value, but he's also not getting younger, is crazy and has ~3/75 left after this season. Wiggins has looked completely disillusioned, and is probably a negative contract at this point (~3/85 left).
 
HermanG said:
Dunleavy is a in a sticky situation. There was a report yesterday that they dont want to trade away Klay and Draymond as they are franchise legends, and today they said they dont want to trade away Moody and Kuminga.

I dont really know what line of thinking they follow here. You wanna hold on to your old greats even though they are not the same guys they used to be, and you dont wanna trade your future guys even though one of them barely sees the court... so now they gonna go to the gunrange with only blanks in theri clip and then they are gonna end up wondering how the target board looks pristine afer they empty that clip.
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It's called leverage. They don't want to appear overly eager to give anyone up
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's called leverage. They don't want to appear overly eager to give anyone up
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Remember the Harden/Morey situation where I called out Morey's strategy and told you that Harden will burn him? I told you exactly what was about to happen and how Morey was overplaying his hand.

Here is a reminder (Harden quit like 3 days later):
HermanG said:
Its clear what the endgame looks like for Harden if his situation isnt resolved. He is gonna quit on the court at some point.

This is the way.

But I was stunned to hear the report that Sixers are looking to get an All-Star guard in return for him. Why is Morey overplaying his hand this badly? Everyone expects Harden to force his hand at some point even if he is on his best behaviour right now.
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
I dont think it's that clear. I dont think Harden will quit. He's on a contract year and he knows his vaue isnt what it once was. He cant completely mail the season in.

It certainly wont be a great environment, but I dont think he will tank the Sixers season.
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This time around its painfully obvious that Dunleavy should try to get calls ASAP to see whats out there.... and he instead dangles only Wiggins out there who is just about as interesting as a bag of turnips. Its not like Klay is the type of guy who draws interest automatically with the way he is playing right now, but there probably is a market for him, if you really want to move on. For Moody Dunleavy doesnt have any idea who could really be interested, so definitely should leak out that "they may consider trading Moody for a player who improves them now".

Leverage does not exist if you have the most expensive roster in the history of the NBA and are 12th and trending downwards. Everyone can smell blood in those waters.
 
hgb said:
Looney is a solid big on a nice contract, but I doubt you get a lot for him. Klay is expiring, 33 years old and has had a pretty bad season. Hard to gauge Draymond's value, but he's also not getting younger, is crazy and has ~3/75 left after this season. Wiggins has looked completely disillusioned, and is probably a negative contract at this point (~3/85 left).
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Looney always looks tired and slow but this year… dude looks like he’s for reals washed. Wiggins is on melatonin… Klay is cooked… Steph still has his fastball but not everyday. I think their options are go the route of the Mavs Dirk twilight years… suck and start adding young guys while Steph wins 30 something games a year for 2-3 years. Get less expensive… hope Curry requests out so you can get a haul for him and not be the bad guy.

This is where you need a guy like Ainge and Myers didn’t have the stomach for it. Dunleavy likely doesn’t either.
 
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