PearlWatson
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Is it suddenly okay for Mormons in Colorado to smoke pot because pot is legal?
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Is it suddenly okay for Mormons in Colorado to smoke pot because pot is legal?
b_line
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I was actually going to pose this question. I have some mormon friends who would be fine smoking pot if they lived I. Colorado. As far as I know, there is no actual rule against it. It is not expressly forbidden anywhere.
Caffeine is perfectly legal everywhere - yet isn't it against the moral code for LDS to drink caffeinated beverages? Pretty much the same with alcohol.
So I don't see that the legality of something is really the determining factor.
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Yep.
Tabacco, porn, rated R movies, sex before marriage, tattoos, cursing. All legal
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Legality has nothing to do with it. The word of wisdom is defined as disallowing coffee, green and black tea whether hot or cold, tobacco in any form, alcohol, and recreational drugs (that's the best way to describe it anyway). Prescription drugs are fine as long as they are used as prescribed.
green
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This link mentions marijuana:
https://www.lds.org/youth/for-the-strength-of-youth/physical-and-emotional-health?lang=eng
You have to click "read more".
https://www.lds.org/youth/for-the-strength-of-youth/physical-and-emotional-health?lang=eng
You have to click "read more".
That's a common misconception, but actually incorrect. Coffee and tea as specifically banned in the LDS church, but not caffeinated drinks in general. Most Mormons that I know of drink caffeinated sodas, although most would also say that they should only be consumed in moderation.
But your point about the legality not being the deciding factor is a good one.
I agree with this, and probably most Mormons in states where marijuana is legal would be OK with their fellow Mormons using marijuana if it's prescribed by a doctor.
By the way, I thought the "recreational drugs" phrase was very good. I'm not certain that that's the phrase used by the church, but it probably should be/will be soon.
From the church handbook of instructions:
https://www.lds.org/handbook/handbo...rch/selected-church-policies?lang=eng#21.3.11
The last sentence pretty much bans recreational marijuana, even in places where it's legal.
Unless you don't think weed is habit forming, which a lot of scientific minds think. I suppose it all up to how you interpret things. Both of my grandmothers drank tea. I have zero doubt they are sitting in the highest kingdom, fly fishing with my grandpas, and enjoying eternity.
In my not so humble opinion, moderation is the key to the WW.
In my not so humble opinion, moderation is the key to the WW.
A quick websearch on "is marijuana habit forming" popped this up as the top link: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-teenage-mind/201012/is-marijuana-addictive.
So by those numbers marijuana is roughly the same addictiveness as alcohol, cocaine, and heroin. One might dispute those specific numbers, but I don't think it can be disputed that it is addictive to some extent.
I don't disagree with you, but if you kept reading your google results, you'd find plenty of board certified physicians who will say otherwise. It goes back to the whole moderation thing, I suppose. When I married a Mormon chick, I had to quit smoking, drinking, weed, coffee, etc. all at once, cold turkey. The only thing I really had trouble with was coffee. I miss the taste of beer, and getting high was great, but I never felt addicted to them at all, where as I practically salivate walking down the coffee aisle at the grocery store. In fact, I usually find a reason to browse that section just so I can soak in the aroma. Freaking love it. If I decide to drink a beer with a friend at some point, I'm not going to lose any sleep over breaking the WoW. If I'm sneaking a 12 pack in every weekend while my wife is at work,then that's a different story. Moderation, justification, excuses, etc. -- it's all in how you read and interpret.
How do we interpret the inadvertent disclosure that the regular activity rate of members is 36%?
https://brucefey.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/lds-spokesman-breaks-down-membership.html
https://brucefey.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/lds-spokesman-breaks-down-membership.html
Easy: Church is boring, football isn't.
It's not that simple, either. I'm impressed if you did quit all those things all at once. Must have had a good reason.
My interpretation of the disclosed personal information leads to an opinion that you may have a low "addictive index", a term I just invented to describe a personal biochemistry phenonema that might be associated with perhaps a less "focused" sort of psychology. I on the other hand, can get hopelessly addicted to cinnamon, or almost any flavor of candy or chips. . . . . I believe if I used those things, I'd end up living under a freeway overpass trying to haul in the $1000 dollars a day I'd need for both the "right" to the spot from the gang/mafia plus the stuff I'd need to "use" to stay functional enough to hold up the cardboard sign.
What do you expect a Church to say when every bishop has ten derelicts in the ward who are just as bad off as all that? It's normal administrative reaction, bro.
Interesting. I saw the article after some of the numbers had been removed, and wondered what had actually been removed.
Anyway, assuming the 36% is correct, that's a bit higher than the 30% number you and one or two others were throwing around (and I was disputing for lack of evidence) in this thread: https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php...ence-Fall-2013&p=668832&viewfull=1#post668832, and a little less than the 40% that was my very rough estimate a couple of days later, here: https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?19964-LDS-church-membership-statistics
Seems plausible. Would be very interesting to see a country-by-country breakdown.
green
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Here is where I stand. I love the Book of Mormon. I think it's fantastic. Lots to learn, lots of good teachings, lots of fantasticness.
Joseph Smith was kind of a scum bag.
Brigham Young was the opposite of Joseph Smith, but still scum.
When you look at the early Church, it went through a lot of growing pains, ala a new business. A lot of revelation was received that was wrong, and the leaders learned, adapted and progressed. Some sketchy was done as well, with the destroying of Nauvoo Expositor and all the polyandry going on by Smith.
Brigham Young was a little too willing to share the Church's donated funds with his family and completely did away with what little "separation of Church and State" there was left.
Then you throw in all the bigotry/racism/etc found throughout a church led by revelation...well. It gets tough.
So, I pray multiple times a day, read my Book of Mormon every day, and my Bible almost as much. I don't delve into the Pearl of Great Price or Doctrine and Covenants too often. I listen to conference, go to Church most Sundays, keep my mouth shut in class, learn something good every week, do my callings, pay my tithing, remember that the Church is run by men, and know that I am putting forth an honest effort.
If you look at my actions, I am a very, very devout Mormon. If you read my words, you'd think I was an apostate. Ha ha.
I'm giving it my best, and I try to improve every day, and I know that when it all ends, God will know my intentions and it will all sort itself out.
Joseph Smith was kind of a scum bag.
Brigham Young was the opposite of Joseph Smith, but still scum.
When you look at the early Church, it went through a lot of growing pains, ala a new business. A lot of revelation was received that was wrong, and the leaders learned, adapted and progressed. Some sketchy was done as well, with the destroying of Nauvoo Expositor and all the polyandry going on by Smith.
Brigham Young was a little too willing to share the Church's donated funds with his family and completely did away with what little "separation of Church and State" there was left.
Then you throw in all the bigotry/racism/etc found throughout a church led by revelation...well. It gets tough.
So, I pray multiple times a day, read my Book of Mormon every day, and my Bible almost as much. I don't delve into the Pearl of Great Price or Doctrine and Covenants too often. I listen to conference, go to Church most Sundays, keep my mouth shut in class, learn something good every week, do my callings, pay my tithing, remember that the Church is run by men, and know that I am putting forth an honest effort.
If you look at my actions, I am a very, very devout Mormon. If you read my words, you'd think I was an apostate. Ha ha.
I'm giving it my best, and I try to improve every day, and I know that when it all ends, God will know my intentions and it will all sort itself out.