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The OFFICIAL don't draft Joel Embiid thread

Beantown said:
Draftexpress has him listed at 240. I'm not saying he won't grow but a lot of the great NBA centers currently are in the 265-280 range. I currently see him more of just a Tyson Chandler player. A great defender but somebody that's not going to dominate....just a great role player.

And in this draft he better be one of the next great big men in the league to deserve that #1 selection.

You can be a douche bag all you want.
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I'll continue being a douche bag, and you continue to take the wrong position on almost every conceivable issue.

And for the record, I don't know the future for Embiid, but your reasoning for your opinion are terrible (Embiid has a terrific frame, he's bigger than Anthony Davis, he isn't raw offensively, he's productive in limited minutes, he is not as big of a project as they come [he'd be less of a project than Kanter or Favors were], and comparing him to Hasheem Thabeet is just embarrassing) and have been thoroughly trounced for a reason.
 
JimLes said:
Also, even if Embiid reaches his best case scenario(Ibaka or Bynum), isn't the whole purpose of the tank to get a number one option because we currently don't have one? How would drafting a complimentary player help the Jazz? I mean, even Dwight Howard has turned out to be simply a nice complimentary player, and we should spend our number one pick on the second coming of Serge Ibaka?
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I seriously think you have the worst basketball knowledge and understanding of the NBA of anyone on this board.

I'm sorry to say that and wouldn't be flat out rude like that if I wasn't sure that you are good at other things in life.


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Beantown said:
Of course I have seen him play. I have ESPN gramps...and I don't need my nurse to show me how to use it.
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This makes it even worse. At least beforehand, you could have excused your ridiculous takes by saying "well I was just going off of highlights".


Now you are basically admitting to having the IQ of a vegetable
 
Beantown said:
How dumb and blind are you?....Thabeet was supposed to be the next great big man in the NBA.
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Holy ****ing **** no he wasn't.

EVERYONE was laughing at Memphis when they took Thabeet #2.

People thought he could clog the paint on defense, but had a very low ceiling.

Srs bro, you have no idea what you're talking about.



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Embiid's best case scenario is becoming a possibly worse offensive player than he already is (Ibaka)? How is Ibaka comparable to Andrew Bynum? What?
 
Thinking Embiid shouldn't be drafted over Parker and Wiggins is one thing.

Thinking the Jazz should select Luke Babbitt over Gordon Hayward is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.


Yet everyone crucifies me....and all the other dumbasses on here get free passes...makes no sense.
 
beantown said:
i currently see him more of just a tyson chandler player with much a much better outside shot, better post moves, better passing ability, more mobility, better hops, better free throw shooting, better hands, and only 19 years old.
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iawtp
 
NUMBERICA said:
Embiid's best case scenario is becoming a possibly worse offensive player than he already is (Ibaka)? How is Ibaka comparable to Andrew Bynum? What?
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And then he wraps it up with the Hibbert comparison. Literally was in awe of all 3.
 
Beantown said:
Thinking Embiid shouldn't be drafted over Parker and Wiggins is one thing.

Thinking the Jazz should select Luke Babbitt over Gordon Hayward is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.


Yet everyone crucifies me....and all the other dumbasses on here get free passes...makes no sense.
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Everyone's wrong sometimes. You're wrong all the time. You come back despite continually embarrassing yourself. That you don't see the difference is itself yet another embarrassment.
 
Beantown said:
Yet everyone crucifies me....and all the other dumbasses on here get free passes...makes no sense.
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No one cares that you'd take Jabari first-- BUT: people care if you say "don't draft Embiid becuz Thabeet and Sene". Why do people care? Cuz that's the ****ing most stupid justification I've seen so far this year-- and now you're playing the "everyone just has it out for me" card?
 
Thabeet was supposed to be "the next great big man in the NBA".

Gets drafted behind another big.
 
Beantown said:
The original discussion was that being a 7 footer in the league was rare.....which its not....I would dare say every team has a 7 footer on their roster.
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This is a discussion you randomly started having with yourself when I said that all you knew about Embiid was that he was African and tall. You tried proving that being tall isn't a big deal, proving my point that you're talking about a player you know nothing about.



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JimLes said:
You talked about his elite skills, which I took to be implication that it would have something to do with his NBA career. If you're talking about him being elite at college level, that has nothing to do with anything. Elite skills from college translate to the NBA...how often exactly?
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LMFAO.

Pls tell me you are completely new to following basketball or living life or something.



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fishonjazz said:
Well if that was really all you said in the OP then no one one would have a problem with it.

You made it seem like if you are from africa and 7 feet then we should stay away from him and then started with the thabeet comps.

Saying you would take jabari or wiggins over him is not something that would have made a 15 plus page discussion

I would take wiggins, then jabari, then embiid if i were picking
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The OP was referring to the Jazz having the #1 pick. Maybe I didn't make that clear enough.
 
UGLI baby said:
This is a discussion you randomly started having with yourself when I said that all you knew about Embiid was that he was African and tall. You tried proving that being tall isn't a big deal, proving my point that you're talking about a player you know nothing about.



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No...... I was having this discussion with BLine......try and keep up gramps. Turn up your oxygen tank.
 
JimLes said:
Dunks and putbacks? I guess our standards of impressive differ. And his one assist is an airballed shot that a teammate put back.
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Holy stupid.... In a 4 minute highlight video he had 3 total dunks, none of them putbacks (1 alley oop, another alley oop over someone, and a post up spin move dunk)

He also had a nice running sky hook, and a post up baseline 5 footer over the defender.

And 8 blocks shots.

The assist was an OBVIOUS pass to his teammate..... Cant believe you think it was an airballed shot.


But ya, nothing but dunks and putbacks
 
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