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You could do your own research, instead of continuing to ask others to prove, or disprove, something for you. Now, here you are pointing to that old Politico report, without any effort at all, on your part, to ascertain the truth.

https://themoscowproject.org/dispat...ukraine-that-interfered-in-the-2016-election/

The original report about the Ukrainian American working for the DNC has been rejected by the very news organization that published it.

  • Some Congressional Republicans continue to point to an outdated January 2017 Politicostory that said former DNC contractor Alexandra Chalupa “conspired with Ukrainian officials during the 2016 election to dig up dirt on Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.” In a 2017 interview with Politico, Chalupa described communicating with the Ukrainian ambassador to the United States about her concerns regarding Manafort’s many connections to Ukraine and Russia.
  • Chalupa has since clarified to both CNN and Politico that the Ukrainian Embassy did not provide any documents to her during this effort and that she was not conducting this work on behalf of the DNC, stating, “During the 2016 US election, I was a part-time consultant for the DNC running an ethnic engagement program. I was not an opposition researcher for the DNC, and the DNC never asked me to go to the Ukrainian Embassy to collect information.” The DNC has also stated that Chalupa was not conducting research into Manafort on its behalf.
  • As The Washington Post has noted, “Politico implicitly contradicted its own 2017 story by reporting … that ‘no evidence has emerged to support’ the idea of a Ukrainian campaign.” Politico has also since stated that the original article “did not state that the Ukrainian government conspired with the Clinton campaign or the DNC.”
  • CNN fact-checkers found that House minority members’ claims that Chalupa “worked with Ukrainian embassy officials to spread dirt on the Trump Campaign” are entirely baseless.

In the second half of her opening statement Thursday, Ms. Hill took to task those harping on this asinine Ukraine conspiracy theory. The Republicans, and Trump defenders, including some on this forum, are supporting Russian aims against the United States. Supporting the Ukraine conspiracy BS is the same thing as supporting Russian active measures against our country. Anybody doing this should be ashamed of themselves, IMO. As Fiona Hill points out in the second half of this short statement, this Ukraine theory originated with the Russian services. How can Republicans and Trump supporters bend over backwards to actually help our number 1 geopolitical adversary of the past 70 years?

Fiona Hill is the best:

 
Not once, not once was the name Burisma [or] the Bidens mentioned to me," Perry, the former governor of Texas, told Ed Henry in an exclusive interview that will air on "America's News HQ" this weekend.

So, Perry is denying that he was the reason Trump brought up the Biden's on the July 25th call. Excellent.
 
You could do your own research, instead of continuing to ask others to prove, or disprove, something for you. Now, here you are pointing to that old Politico report, without any effort at all, on your part, to ascertain the truth.

https://themoscowproject.org/dispat...ukraine-that-interfered-in-the-2016-election/

The original report about the Ukrainian American working for the DNC has been rejected by the very news organization that published it.

  • Some Congressional Republicans continue to point to an outdated January 2017 Politicostory that said former DNC contractor Alexandra Chalupa “conspired with Ukrainian officials during the 2016 election to dig up dirt on Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.” In a 2017 interview with Politico, Chalupa described communicating with the Ukrainian ambassador to the United States about her concerns regarding Manafort’s many connections to Ukraine and Russia.
  • Chalupa has since clarified to both CNN and Politico that the Ukrainian Embassy did not provide any documents to her during this effort and that she was not conducting this work on behalf of the DNC, stating, “During the 2016 US election, I was a part-time consultant for the DNC running an ethnic engagement program. I was not an opposition researcher for the DNC, and the DNC never asked me to go to the Ukrainian Embassy to collect information.” The DNC has also stated that Chalupa was not conducting research into Manafort on its behalf.
  • As The Washington Post has noted, “Politico implicitly contradicted its own 2017 story by reporting … that ‘no evidence has emerged to support’ the idea of a Ukrainian campaign.” Politico has also since stated that the original article “did not state that the Ukrainian government conspired with the Clinton campaign or the DNC.”
  • CNN fact-checkers found that House minority members’ claims that Chalupa “worked with Ukrainian embassy officials to spread dirt on the Trump Campaign” are entirely baseless.
So stories only matter when you want them too. No evidence is only sufficient when YOU want it too. Contradictions like Sonland saying "quid pro quo" then saying Trump specifically said "I WANT NOTHING" is 100% ok and you look riiight past it. Lol k your highness. Only when it fits YOUR agenda...
 
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Works for me. I didn't think you would care about Trump committing felonies, because you are such a neutral observer and all.
Yeah you're totally neutral. You're the one who's been taking part in a "Let's Impeach Trump" thread before any of this even happened. Lol definitely no ulterior motive behind you and all others...
 
Amazing lack of patriotism from Hannity, Rudy, and Trump minions, swallowing and perpetrating the Russian propagating about Ukrainian election interference.

These dudes go down as true villains in American history.
 
Polls showing that people see through your idiotic bs.

http://emersonpolling.com/2019/11/2...es-biden-and-sanders-lead-democratic-primary/

You guys...YOU, are going to be the rason Trump wins. People are going to vote against you and your fairy tale bs more than they will for Trump. We see through you and your psychotic obsession. We are tired if it. You are nothing more than poor losers who will stop at nothing to get your way. Shut up and start helping instead of resisting.

Just wait until we start seeing how this whole Russia hoax started that you all fell for. Just imagine an Obama FBI agent doctoring evidence to get the FISA warrant. @Red @silesian (the faux conservative) won't say a word.
 
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When I read transcripts or whatever regarding Trump-Ukraine: definitely quid pro quo, let's see if they can prove it.

When I read JF impeach Trump thread: **** ****, what a bunch of deranged psychotic lunatics. What alternate reality is this? Trump is obviously innocent here, what a crock of ****!

But that's the perception battle the poly-scy campaigners have waged and are fighting. Kinda funny the rabid, deluded fanatics here are helping the Trump side of public perception with their constant party hack nonsense. Good job guys. Well done.

Watched a ton of Sondland on Wednesday and Castor's questioning yesterday. Holy ****, did Sondland invent this entire quid quo pro thing up as a story inside his head? He basically says as much during Castor's questioning:

-Trump told me he did not want any quid pro quo
-I have no evidence, these are all my assumptions



Watch it yourself and tell me what you make of it.
 
Watched a ton of Sondland on Wednesday and Castor's questioning yesterday. Holy ****, did Sondland invent this entire quid quo pro thing up as a story inside his head? He basically says as much during Castor's questioning:

-Trump told me he did not want any quid pro quo
-I have no evidence, these are all my assumptions



Watch it yourself and tell me what you make of it.


Yeah, I personally don't trust Sondland-- he's almost completed nullified his credibility as a witness. But his testimony strikes me as someone 100% covering his own ***-- first saying what he thought would keep him out of trouble with Trump, and then deciding his self-interests were best served by flipping and saying he did observe quid pro quo. Given the other witnesses believe quid pro quo was, at worst, implied if not outright expressed, I'm prone to think he initially lied and then corrected himself later and told the truth. Either way, his value in all of this is net zero at this point.
 
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"Abject failure"? That's about as uncreative and unconvincing a characterization as can be made. There wasn't an original thought in that lady's head. Her comments may as well have been written by Hannity himself, which in fact wouldn't surprise me to actually have been the case. Sorry, man, but posting a Fox News interview of a cookie-cutter GOP politician speaking stale insults through a fake smile isn't going to persuade anybody of anything.



I might not fully agree with Hurd's assertions of no evidence, but I very much appreciate and respect that he seems genuine and grounded. He made me think. This is the kind of engagement that should be happening, and not the antagonistic attempts at distraction coming from unlikable idiots like Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan. I wouldn't mind at all hearing more from Hurd.


Are you being a sexist douche or just obtuse? She was there for the whole thing, heard the testimonies and made up her own mind how stupid this impeachment hearing was.
 
Are you being a sexist douche or just obtuse? She was there for the whole thing, heard the testimonies and made up her own mind how stupid this impeachment hearing was.

Hey, man-- I didn't insult you, call you names, or attack you personally, and I expect the same respect, okay? Have some class.

The words she uses, and the way she's set up by Hannity don't resonate with me, and that full interview-- to me-- seems entirely contrived. I'll admit I have a problem with Hannity-- I don't think he's a credible or objective source of information, and only works to further the deeply partisan disconnect going on in our country right now. We can agree to disagree on that basis, if you're cool with that.
 
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Polls showing that people see through your idiotic bs.

http://emersonpolling.com/2019/11/2...es-biden-and-sanders-lead-democratic-primary/

You guys...YOU, are going to be the rason Trump wins. People are going to vote against you and your fairy tale bs more than they will for Trump. We see through you and your psychotic obsession. We are tired if it. You are nothing more than poor losers who will stop at nothing to get your way. Shut up and start helping instead of resisting.

Just wait until we start seeing how this whole Russia hoax started that you all fell for. Just imagine an Obama FBI agent doctoring evidence to get the FISA warrant. @Red @silesian (the faux conservative) won't say a word.

Vladimir approves of this message. Brainwashing mission: successful. Your posts remind me a lot of the ones I see on twitter from Russian bots. Onward, comrade! Tovarich!
 
@Red @silesian (the faux conservative) won't say a word.

Every insult from you is a high complement. If you ever say anything nice, I would be very worried about my position.

It really doesn't bother me at all that you choose to categorize me as a liberal. Every place needs a village idiot, so please continue.
 
Watched a ton of Sondland on Wednesday and Castor's questioning yesterday. Holy ****, did Sondland invent this entire quid quo pro thing up as a story inside his head? He basically says as much during Castor's questioning:

-Trump told me he did not want any quid pro quo
-I have no evidence, these are all my assumptions

Watch it yourself and tell me what you make of it.


OJ told us he was not the murderer.
 
Every insult from you is a high complement. If you ever say anything nice, I would be very worried about my position.

It really doesn't bother me at all that you choose to categorize me as a liberal. Every place needs a village idiot, so please continue.
It wasn't an insult. I was actually right that you wouldn't say a word about corruption against your own party. You're so quick to call it out against Trump but when an FBI agent allegedly lied to get the FISA warrant you don't say a word. It just shows you don't give a single damn about corruption. You don't...
 
What people seem to be missing with Sondland is that the reason he claims he had to presume there was an improper quid pro quo was because he didn't see Trump's July 25th readout with Zelensky where he made that clear. His claim was during his work toward getting a meeting set up and the aid released, he came to presume there was a quid pro quo.

This has been shown to be a correct presumption based on the 25th of July phone call readout, as well as Trump's and Mulvaney's public statement since this all became public.
 
Vladimir approves of this message. Brainwashing mission: successful. Your posts remind me a lot of the ones I see on twitter from Russian bots. Onward, comrade! Tovarich!
Says the guy wanting to impeach an elected official over nothing. Doing exactly what Putin was shooting for no matter the candidate.
 
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